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    Should we make criminals pay for Prison time?

    Say £50 per night and a £100 booking fee.

    This will definitely deter petty criminals - pick pockets, anti social behaviour etc.

    It will make crime not pay! Overall it should lower crime quite considerably. Those who are drug addicts will have to accept mandatory rehabilitation programmes or face paying the costs.

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    How would they exactly pay for this?
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    No. It makes a mockery out of justice really. If and when they get out of there, they need to be in a position to fully contribute to society.
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    (Original post by College_Dropout)
    How would they exactly pay for this?
    1. Assets they currently own (Majority do own)
    2. Getting a job - settle it like a mortgage
    3. Prison work - Make flags for our glorious leader
    etc etc

    Plenty of ways m8
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    (Original post by jammy4041)
    No. It makes a mockery out of justice really. If and when they get out of there, they need to be in a position to fully contribute to society.
    They will contribute for paying for their prison time m8.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    They will contribute for paying for their prison time m8.
    right, so there's no need to make them pay, as if the majority can afford that, on top of their payment through all of that time.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    1. Assets they currently own (Majority do own)
    2. Getting a job - settle it like a mortgage
    3. Prison work - Make flags for our glorious leader
    etc etc

    Plenty of ways m8
    Job while in prison? What if prisoners simply refuse to do so.
    Taking the assets they currently only would only cause them to turn to crime again after they released, making the justice system fail even harder then they already do in terms of rehabilitation.
    Do you think mixing prison and business/profit is really a good idea?
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    No this won't deter criminals. Also people in jail will come out with a debt and will just turn to more crime.
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    (Original post by College_Dropout)
    Job while in prison? What if prisoners simply refuse to do so.
    Taking the assets they currently only would only cause them to turn to crime again after they released, making the justice system fail even harder then they already do in terms of rehabilitation.
    Do you think mixing prison and business/profit is really a good idea?
    1. Refuse to work? you will have debt when you leave
    2. Taking assets they currently own? that's called punishment. It's a deterrent. Not all criminals are dirt poor you know, we have a welfare system in place which is more than adequate. It's greed.
    3. Yes when we have like 80-90% gov debt. We need to make cut backs.
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    (Original post by Vikingninja)
    No this won't deter criminals. Also people in jail will come out with a debt and will just turn to more crime.
    Prison sentences will get longer and the debts will get bigger.
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    and then they come out of prison and steal more because they need to pay it off? terrible idea
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    No.

    It won't deter criminals, it won't punish criminals other than the very poor, and it won't rehabilitate them.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Prison sentences will get longer and the debts will get bigger.
    And here we go into a spiral of decline.
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    (Original post by Vikingninja)
    And here we go into a spiral of decline.
    Here we go into a return on investment for a mistake committed by a liable individual
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Here we go into a return on investment for a mistake committed by a liable individual
    You don't get a return in investment from someone in huge debt stuck in prison. What you get instead is someone in an even worse position who will commit further and more severe crimes.
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    (Original post by Vikingninja)
    You don't get a return in investment from someone in huge debt stuck in prison. What you get instead is someone in an even worse position who will commit further and more severe crimes.
    Nope - they will learn from their ways and get back on the straight and narrow before the sentences get LONGER and the debts get BIGGER for the majority. Exceptional circumstances we will write off for bad debts and implement a LONG prison sentence and further evaluation for character if the individual is fit to re-enter society.

    We will have the funds to do this btw. Will have a LOT more funds!
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Nope - they will learn from their ways and get back on the straight and narrow before the sentences get LONGER and the debts get BIGGER for the majority. Exceptional circumstances we will write off for bad debts and implement a LONG prison sentence and further evaluation for character if the individual is fit to re-enter society.

    We will have the funds to do this btw. Will have a LOT more funds!
    No they do not go on the straight path with a **** load of debt on their backs, they're not be rehabilitated and rather just ****ed over and just go further. Also nice idea having longer sentences for "exceptional cases" totally doesn't take back a load of the UNPAID debts and also more money from taxes.
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    (Original post by Vikingninja)
    No they do not go on the straight path with a **** load of debt on their backs, they're not be rehabilitated and rather just ****ed over and just go further. Also nice idea having longer sentences for "exceptional cases" totally doesn't take back a load of the UNPAID debts and also more money from taxes.
    So you're telling me mortgages don't make people work harder?!!?
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    Don't do it Bill!
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    1. Refuse to work? you will have debt when you leave
    2. Taking assets they currently own? that's called punishment. It's a deterrent. Not all criminals are dirt poor you know, we have a welfare system in place which is more than adequate. It's greed.
    3. Yes when we have like 80-90% gov debt. We need to make cut backs.
    1) You do realise that many prisoners have mental illnesses. They can't necessarily work. Prison should be about rehabilitation. This is what prevents people from offending again.

    2) No but many, even the majority are. The welfare system is no where near adequate. Yet the millionaire tax dodgers aren't greedy.

    3) We need to cut back on corporate welfare and make the likes of Starbucks, Amazon and Google pay their fair share. Cut from the poorest and they will just sink lower. You create a cycle of poverty.

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