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That's the most Bangladesh-esque innings of all time.
Original post by The Wavefunction
That's the most Bangladesh-esque innings of all time.
They may fair better at bowling and gain a sizeable lead if England collapse.
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Original post by Enginerd.
They may fair better at bowling and gain a sizeable lead if England collapse.
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Bairstow/Moeen/Stokes will inevitably save them
A piece on the ever so humble and polite Moeen.
"Moeen Ali fails to spin his words but turns up with five Bangladesh wickets"
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/28/moeen-ali-fail-spin-words-five-bangladesh-wickets?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Memo
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"Moeen Ali fails to spin his words but turns up with five Bangladesh wickets"
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/28/moeen-ali-fail-spin-words-five-bangladesh-wickets?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Memo
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Moeen's words on Tamim are absolutely spot on. He seems to find the gaps and has a canny knack of firing his shots in places it is very hard to place fielders. Three of his eight Test centuries have come against England, his average of 63.27 against them is very impressive and only five men who have played a minimum of 10 innings against England have a higher average, and one of them is Don Bradman.
Still, 77 per cent of Bangladesh's runs came from one partnership - Tamim and Mominul - and it shows Bangladesh need to play more Test cricket. There is talent in this team, but to improve they need to play more.
But let's be clear: if England bowl like this in India, they will be thrashed. I expect England's spinners to get better, with practice and experience of the conditions. Moeen said Ansari did "all right" - an overstatement, I felt - and the debutant looked nervous, while Rashid lacked control once again.
Regardless, England's top order being so brittle is a more major concern right now. They seem to constantly be in a state of 50-3. What is the point of Gary Ballance? So far this series, England's third wicket has fallen on a score of 21, 28 and 42. England lost three wickets in the 12.3 overs but Ballance remains the most pressing issue. Since returning to the side in July, he has recorded scores of 6, 43, 23, 70, 28, 8, 17, 1, 9 and 9.
Ballance has now passed 30 only 3 times in 20 innings, with a highest of 70. At some point, whether it be this Test match, or during the India series, the middle-order will not be able to rescue England. Serious questions need to be asked about Ballance's place (he did get a good ball though), and whether opening is the best place for Duckett.
Still, 77 per cent of Bangladesh's runs came from one partnership - Tamim and Mominul - and it shows Bangladesh need to play more Test cricket. There is talent in this team, but to improve they need to play more.
But let's be clear: if England bowl like this in India, they will be thrashed. I expect England's spinners to get better, with practice and experience of the conditions. Moeen said Ansari did "all right" - an overstatement, I felt - and the debutant looked nervous, while Rashid lacked control once again.
Regardless, England's top order being so brittle is a more major concern right now. They seem to constantly be in a state of 50-3. What is the point of Gary Ballance? So far this series, England's third wicket has fallen on a score of 21, 28 and 42. England lost three wickets in the 12.3 overs but Ballance remains the most pressing issue. Since returning to the side in July, he has recorded scores of 6, 43, 23, 70, 28, 8, 17, 1, 9 and 9.
Ballance has now passed 30 only 3 times in 20 innings, with a highest of 70. At some point, whether it be this Test match, or during the India series, the middle-order will not be able to rescue England. Serious questions need to be asked about Ballance's place (he did get a good ball though), and whether opening is the best place for Duckett.
They've genuinely tried to give Ballance time and it's this series they have given him to capture consistent form but it has backfired. Not sure why they didn't pursue their original plan of Hameed opening who now looks set to make his debut in the testing conditions and atmosphere in India where as this series would have been ideal to give him a go.
Great work by Moeen, only behind Swann and Laker in terms of strike rate after 80 wickets.
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Great work by Moeen, only behind Swann and Laker in terms of strike rate after 80 wickets.
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NZ vs India in the final - and deciding - ODI tomorrow.
The tourists have never won an ODI series in India, and to do so, their middle order needs to fire. Ross Taylor will hope to carry the momentum he enjoyed in the third and fourth ODIs into the decisive meeting tomorrow, after Corey Anderson and Luke Ronchi struggled earlier on the tour and were subsequently dropped
Jadhav has been crucial with his canny knack of picking up wickets, and Jasprit Bumrahis set to take Dhawal Kulkarni's place in the XI, according to reports, with NZ's attack looking increasingly dangerous, with Tim Southee becoming the leading wicket-taker of the white-ball series and the only New Zealand bowler to have taken three-wicket hauls in the series. NZ have the required artillery in their bowling to put Indian batting order in jeopardy, and they showcased it in Delhi and Ranchi.
The tourists have never won an ODI series in India, and to do so, their middle order needs to fire. Ross Taylor will hope to carry the momentum he enjoyed in the third and fourth ODIs into the decisive meeting tomorrow, after Corey Anderson and Luke Ronchi struggled earlier on the tour and were subsequently dropped
Jadhav has been crucial with his canny knack of picking up wickets, and Jasprit Bumrahis set to take Dhawal Kulkarni's place in the XI, according to reports, with NZ's attack looking increasingly dangerous, with Tim Southee becoming the leading wicket-taker of the white-ball series and the only New Zealand bowler to have taken three-wicket hauls in the series. NZ have the required artillery in their bowling to put Indian batting order in jeopardy, and they showcased it in Delhi and Ranchi.
"Former Pakistan Test Cricketer Saqlain Mushtaq will travel to India next month where he will serve as spin consultant for the England team ahead of five Test match series."
Hopefully, they learn a lot from him.
Hopefully, they learn a lot from him.
Zimbabwe face SL tomorrow, too.
The last time Sri Lanka played Tests against Zimbabwe was in 2004, and Herera will take the captaincy due to a combination of injuries and management issues depriving them of their captain Angelo Mathews, vice-captain Dinesh Chandimal, and fast bowlers Dhammika Prasad, Nuwan Pradeep and Dushmantha Chameera.
It is also Zimbabwe's 100th Test, but SL will be full of confidence after their ousting of Australia, where Herera, Dilruwan Perera and Lakshan Sandakan were crucial.
Upul Tharanga and the uncapped Asela Gunaratne are likely to replace Mathews and Chandimal in their XI.
The last time Sri Lanka played Tests against Zimbabwe was in 2004, and Herera will take the captaincy due to a combination of injuries and management issues depriving them of their captain Angelo Mathews, vice-captain Dinesh Chandimal, and fast bowlers Dhammika Prasad, Nuwan Pradeep and Dushmantha Chameera.
It is also Zimbabwe's 100th Test, but SL will be full of confidence after their ousting of Australia, where Herera, Dilruwan Perera and Lakshan Sandakan were crucial.
Upul Tharanga and the uncapped Asela Gunaratne are likely to replace Mathews and Chandimal in their XI.
Original post by Enginerd.
"Former Pakistan Test Cricketer Saqlain Mushtaq will travel to India next month where he will serve as spin consultant for the England team ahead of five Test match series."
Hopefully, they learn a lot from him.
Hopefully, they learn a lot from him.
He almost single handedly enabled Sussex to win the County Championship for the first time ever.
England have a lead in the first innings, which I did not expect when I awoke at 6.15 and checked the score.
Ugh.. England collapse too but Bangladesh just can't turn the screw and press their advantage at key points.
99 run partnership for the 9th wicket by England which gives them the lead.
99 run partnership for the 9th wicket by England which gives them the lead.
Record ninth-wicket stand between Woakes and Rashid - but they can't always save England. At some stage, the top order needs to fire, otherwise the Indian series will be a long, tiring and ultimately disappointing one.
How many times can the tail bail out England?
Woakes and Rashid gave them a 24-run lead - which is very slender - but, having been eight down and 76 runs behind, it's amazing they eeked out any sort of lead.
Root's half-century was crucial, but Mehedi was exceptional again, although it was a shame Mehedi took his sixth wicket in the form of Woakes, who was four runs shy of a second Test half-century, but he could have been given out on 38 when Rahman caught him, only for Woakes to be reprieved by a no-ball call.
Bangladesh were utterly dominant this morning - claiming five wickets for a paltry 113 runs - two of which came in the first half an hour.
Worryingly, aside from Root, Jonny Bairstow was the only other top-order batsman to reach 20.
Zafar Ansari threatened to stick around, adding 26 for the seventh wicket, but he accounted for Mehedi's fifth wicket after he got rid of Moeen and Bairstow early, and before Stokes was taken by Taijul.
How many times can the tail bail out England?
Woakes and Rashid gave them a 24-run lead - which is very slender - but, having been eight down and 76 runs behind, it's amazing they eeked out any sort of lead.
Root's half-century was crucial, but Mehedi was exceptional again, although it was a shame Mehedi took his sixth wicket in the form of Woakes, who was four runs shy of a second Test half-century, but he could have been given out on 38 when Rahman caught him, only for Woakes to be reprieved by a no-ball call.
Bangladesh were utterly dominant this morning - claiming five wickets for a paltry 113 runs - two of which came in the first half an hour.
Worryingly, aside from Root, Jonny Bairstow was the only other top-order batsman to reach 20.
Zafar Ansari threatened to stick around, adding 26 for the seventh wicket, but he accounted for Mehedi's fifth wicket after he got rid of Moeen and Bairstow early, and before Stokes was taken by Taijul.
The new ball did the trick to break the 9th wicket partnership and finish the England batting innings.
Crazy how fast Bangladesh have started the second innings. 15 over played and already 81 runs on the board with the run-rate around 5.5.
Tamim falls after a quick fire 40 runs and Mominul once lasted a couple of balls but Bangladesh should be somewhat pleased with the start considering another collapse may have been on the cards?
Still around 12 overs to go today so will be entertaining to see if Bangladesh press on and the lead grows or if England can get a few more wickets tonight to wrestle control.
These two Test matches have been great so far!
Crazy how fast Bangladesh have started the second innings. 15 over played and already 81 runs on the board with the run-rate around 5.5.
Tamim falls after a quick fire 40 runs and Mominul once lasted a couple of balls but Bangladesh should be somewhat pleased with the start considering another collapse may have been on the cards?
Still around 12 overs to go today so will be entertaining to see if Bangladesh press on and the lead grows or if England can get a few more wickets tonight to wrestle control.
These two Test matches have been great so far!
Another 140 runs or so and you have to say that England will struggle to chase down that total from Bangladesh. I'm chuffed for Ansari, who struck to get the big man Tamim out. That threatened to be a big wicket for the tourists, because Tamim has been tormenting the bowlers by playine some glorious shots.
After that breakthrough, England needed to regain control and stop the scoring - thus allowing the wickets to come - but only Stokes made another breakthrough, removing Monimul.
Since that second wicket, though, Bangladesh have scored freely and really regained the advantage. Mahmudullah has been brilliant - and he's barely done anything extravagant. He's just worked the singles that England's field has allowed him. Rashid's bowling currently looks very, very unthreatening if we're all truthful.
After that breakthrough, England needed to regain control and stop the scoring - thus allowing the wickets to come - but only Stokes made another breakthrough, removing Monimul.
Since that second wicket, though, Bangladesh have scored freely and really regained the advantage. Mahmudullah has been brilliant - and he's barely done anything extravagant. He's just worked the singles that England's field has allowed him. Rashid's bowling currently looks very, very unthreatening if we're all truthful.
Crazy that it's only stumps on day 2.
Bangladesh finish the day with a lead of 128 runs with 3 wickets down. Don't know why Mahmadullah threw away his wicket with the last ball of the day (may have been one more over if he wasn't out).
Takes the gloss off the day but Bangladesh had a good day with 152/3 (when you compare with 220 and 244 scores from the first innings).
Plenty of time so Bangladesh really need to take their time and grind England down. Any target in excess of 200 might not be easy?
Bangladesh finish the day with a lead of 128 runs with 3 wickets down. Don't know why Mahmadullah threw away his wicket with the last ball of the day (may have been one more over if he wasn't out).
Takes the gloss off the day but Bangladesh had a good day with 152/3 (when you compare with 220 and 244 scores from the first innings).
Plenty of time so Bangladesh really need to take their time and grind England down. Any target in excess of 200 might not be easy?
Christ - just as I type that, Mahmudullah is gone! Ansari bowls him. Bangladesh have thrown a wicket away there and that is a really, really poor end to the day for them. Bangladesh lead by 128 but that was utterly idiotic from Mahmadullah. He goes for the huge slog-sweep and ruins all his hard work by missing a straight one.
Neither Bangladesh batsman looked comfortable in that last over - and not because of Ansari's bowling, either. I still make Bangladesh favourites - they’ve got a decent lead very quickly - but their batsman looked like they were unable to see the day out, and they seemed very uncomfortable in that final over.
Neither Bangladesh batsman looked comfortable in that last over - and not because of Ansari's bowling, either. I still make Bangladesh favourites - they’ve got a decent lead very quickly - but their batsman looked like they were unable to see the day out, and they seemed very uncomfortable in that final over.
Original post by Mackay
Christ - just as I type that, Mahmudullah is gone! Ansari bowls him. Bangladesh have thrown a wicket away there and that is a really, really poor end to the day for them. Bangladesh lead by 128 but that was utterly idiotic from Mahmadullah. He goes for the huge slog-sweep and ruins all his hard work by missing a straight one.
Neither Bangladesh batsman looked comfortable in that last over - and not because of Ansari's bowling, either. I still make Bangladesh favourites - they’ve got a decent lead very quickly - but their batsman looked like they were unable to see the day out, and they seemed very uncomfortable in that final over.
Neither Bangladesh batsman looked comfortable in that last over - and not because of Ansari's bowling, either. I still make Bangladesh favourites - they’ve got a decent lead very quickly - but their batsman looked like they were unable to see the day out, and they seemed very uncomfortable in that final over.
The only thing I can think of is that he wanted to try and get his half century before the day was over. So went for the big shot which would've gotten him a 4 to get to the landmark.
We seem to have a mentality issue with ending sessions. So often we lose wickets just before a break or close.
Original post by barnetlad
He almost single handedly enabled Sussex to win the County Championship for the first time ever.
I think you're referring to Mushtaq Ahmed who played for Sussex and was a long-term spin coach for England before joining Pakistan.
I don't know why, since England have had issues with their spinners, they haven't employed a spin coach on a permanent basis. Moeen and Rashid benefitted from sustained coaching in the summer from Saqlain yet they seem to be apply temporary fixes than get in an individual long-term
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The issue for England remains obvious - an upper order brittleness, and a lack of quality in the spin department. Rashid today was too loose and too untrustworthy, not to mention too slow, but regardless, I felt Cook's decision to open with Finn was bizarre.
How to combat the former? Tough to say, but jettisoning Ballance would be a start. When you long for the days of Vince scoring a 24, you know you're clutching at straws. Part of their problem here may be due to the number of left-handers in England's top order, too. Their three left-handers in the top four (Cook, Ben Duckett and Ballance) have top scores this series of 14, 15 and 9 respectively, while two of their three top run-scorers are the right-handers Jonny Bairstow and Chris Woakes.
Lots of talk - rightly - about Ballance's place in the side, but quite what Finn is doing in the team I can't fathom. The two of them (Finn 35 caps and Ballance 20) have had enough chances.
Elsewhere, NZ utterly capitulate against India and find themselves losing the series 3-2, after being skittled for 79. India set a target of 270 thanks to half-centuries from Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, and the touring side couldn't reply, as Mishra, Axar Patel and Yadav ended with combined figures of 14.1-2-35-8.
New Zealand lost their last eight wickets for 16 runs, and after Williamson departed, it was all over for them. They lasted just 23 overs - which was their shortest ODI innings when they have been bowled out ever - and Mishra's impressive figures of 5 for 18 make him the highest wicket-taker of the series, and he claims his first Man-of-the-Series award as a result.
How to combat the former? Tough to say, but jettisoning Ballance would be a start. When you long for the days of Vince scoring a 24, you know you're clutching at straws. Part of their problem here may be due to the number of left-handers in England's top order, too. Their three left-handers in the top four (Cook, Ben Duckett and Ballance) have top scores this series of 14, 15 and 9 respectively, while two of their three top run-scorers are the right-handers Jonny Bairstow and Chris Woakes.
Lots of talk - rightly - about Ballance's place in the side, but quite what Finn is doing in the team I can't fathom. The two of them (Finn 35 caps and Ballance 20) have had enough chances.
Elsewhere, NZ utterly capitulate against India and find themselves losing the series 3-2, after being skittled for 79. India set a target of 270 thanks to half-centuries from Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, and the touring side couldn't reply, as Mishra, Axar Patel and Yadav ended with combined figures of 14.1-2-35-8.
New Zealand lost their last eight wickets for 16 runs, and after Williamson departed, it was all over for them. They lasted just 23 overs - which was their shortest ODI innings when they have been bowled out ever - and Mishra's impressive figures of 5 for 18 make him the highest wicket-taker of the series, and he claims his first Man-of-the-Series award as a result.
hope we slay tomorrow!
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