surrey economics Bsc vs Manchester economics BA

lad1997

which one should I firm?
Looking at academic advantages:

i know this is almost a cliche, but when going to uni to study economics, i want to keep the prospect of investment banking open. If i manage to get a first and get myself into a few spring weeks and summer internships, then i'd still possibly stand a chance in getting a FO or MO position.

the problem is different sources and different people are telling me different things about which uni will keep this prospect open to me the most

looking at grades:
manchester = AAB
surrey = AAA.....looking at this i first made the assumption Surrey was a better uni than Manchester for eco, as they wanted the cleverer people.

rankings:
surrey 11th= with the top dogs, bath, edinburgh, exter etc....
manchester 32nd = no where near the top

now here comes the tricky bit:
manchester = highly prestigious amongst employers for some strange phenomena. makes the list of semi targets for investment banking along side unis such as york, notts, bath, bristol. Surrey does not make this list; Manchester sends more people into banking than surrey

international rankings:
surrey= no where to be seen
manchester = top 50 at least....mindblown.

starting salary
manchester = 21k - quite bad for a uni which is allegedly in the top 50 (International rankings).
surrey = 27k - very good; matches with unis such as bath and bristol, YET it is not a semi target university for banks.

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 1

Exceptional

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'Surrey was a better uni than Manchester for eco, as they wanted the cleverer people'

'Manchester = highly prestigious amongst employers for some strange phenomena.'

You're very naive to make such ludicrous statements. Domestic rankings are a poor indicator of the quality of a university. Given that you reference investment banking, I presume you're considering this direction seriously. Manchester would be the safer option.

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Reply 2

lad1997

OP

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Original post by Exceptional

'Surrey was a better uni than Manchester for eco, as they wanted the cleverer people'

'Manchester = highly prestigious amongst employers for some strange phenomena.'

You're very naive to make such ludicrous statements. Domestic rankings are a poor indicator of the quality of a university. Given that you reference investment banking, I presume you're considering this direction seriously. Manchester would be the safer option.

why ludicrious? lol

the stats, not just the rankings, point towards Surrey as being the better Uni.
Surrey has AAA entry requirements, whilst manchester is AAB. Any logical person would assume that the higher the entry requirements the better the uni.

but i agree with your latter statements. manchester, for investment banking, does seem better

Reply 3

MagicNMedicine

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If your ambitions are being an investment banker then the metric of average starting salary from all graduating students from the two universities are completely irrelevant.

Reply 4

Exceptional

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Original post by lad1997

why ludicrious? lol

the stats, not just the rankings, point towards Surrey as being the better Uni.
Surrey has AAA entry requirements, whilst manchester is AAB. Any logical person would assume that the higher the entry requirements the better the uni.

but i agree with your latter statements. manchester, for investment banking, does seem better

Yes, but universities take that false logic and apply it to their entry so that people will Firm them. I.e. they inflate entry requirements to make themselves seem more prestigious. Video that explains it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvvF7-5SIJ8

Video proving AAB students are let into Surrey because they're quite lenient:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGib7h6NiUk

Manchester has a rich history and such a wide selection of students that you will find the brightest people there. Nobel Prize winning economists like J. Stiglitz have been professors at Manchester. In fact, they have the highest number of AAB+ students attending in the country (even more than Oxbridge). And, proportionately, it has more than Surrey (51% vs 23%). Evidence:
http://exquisitelife.researchresearch.com/exquisite_life/2011/07/the-aab-battlefield-definitive-list-of-how-many-aab-students-there-are-at-english-universities.html

Surrey isn't a bad university of course, but you're making out that Manchester is surprisingly good at certain things and then breaking its balls with domestic league tables based on student satisfaction. If you look at its Wiki page, and actually read about its history, you'll see why it's rated so well by employers.

Reply 5

8Alanoud

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Original post by Exceptional

Yes, but universities take that false logic and apply it to their entry so that people will Firm them. I.e. they inflate entry requirements to make themselves seem more prestigious. Video that explains it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvvF7-5SIJ8

Video proving AAB students are let into Surrey because they're quite lenient:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGib7h6NiUk

Manchester has a rich history and such a wide selection of students that you will find the brightest people there. Nobel Prize winning economists like J. Stiglitz have been professors at Manchester. In fact, they have the highest number of AAB+ students attending in the country (even more than Oxbridge). And, proportionately, it has more than Surrey (51% vs 23%). Evidence:
http://exquisitelife.researchresearch.com/exquisite_life/2011/07/the-aab-battlefield-definitive-list-of-how-many-aab-students-there-are-at-english-universities.html

Surrey isn't a bad university of course, but you're making out that Manchester is surprisingly good at certain things and then breaking its balls with domestic league tables based on student satisfaction. If you look at its Wiki page, and actually read about its history, you'll see why it's rated so well by employers.

Is a BA hons in event management at MMU better or a stronger degree than a BSc hons in international event management at surrey university, I’m not sure what to approve

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