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LSE MSc Finance and Economics 2007-08

Hi there, anyone got offered a spot in the abovementioned Masters Programme?

Got an offer conditional on a B+ in EC312 - Advanced Econometrics.
Heard it's pretty tough. How am I going to cram a whole year's work into 3 weeks? :eek:

Reply 1

anandbatra

Err... which university?

Are you talking about the LSE?

Reply 2

kstone122

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mammonite

Hi there, anyone got offered a spot in the abovementioned Masters Programme?

Got an offer conditional on a B+ in EC312 - Advanced Econometrics.
Heard it's pretty tough. How am I going to cram a whole year's work into 3 weeks? :eek:

I'll see if I can find a friend who took the class. In the mean time how long ago did you apply/did they process your application? I guess I'm just curious how long it takes.

Reply 3

mammonite

OP

Hi everyone, sorry I forgot to add "LSE" to the title. Yes, I'm talking about the MSc in F&E from the LSE. (wow, a whole bunch of acronyms)

I applied for it in December, got a conditional offer in early April, and I now have to go through the whole application process for the summer school as well. No word on that yet, because they're closed for the Easter holidays.

Truth be told, I'm not exactly a math whiz, and due to some bad lecturing and juggling work commitments as well, my grades in the Introduction to Econometrics module are really eating dirt.

I've got two conditions, 1) attain a 2:1 for my current BSc, which shouldn't be a problem because I'm maintaining a first class average for every subject other than Econometrics, and 2) the abovementioned B+ in EC312 (summer school).

I'm just worried that if I can't do well in "Intro to Econometrics" given a whole year, how am I going to fare in "Advanced Econometrics" given only 3 weeks?

Any advice from fellow "seniors" who have been down this path before would be really invaluable. What books should I start reading, what topics should I concentrate on? Can the LSE really condense a year's worth of material into a 3 week course? Or are they pretty liberal with lopping off large chunks of the original syllabus?

Can you smell the fear and panic in my ranting? Oh heavens... Help. *gulp*

Reply 4

mrniceguy

out of interest where are you doing your undergrad?

Reply 5

jeanskip

MSc Finance and Economics is the best program at LSE in my opinion.
Way better than Accounting and Finance...

Reply 6

mammonite

OP

I'm doing my undergrad via the LSE External Programme. It's a sort of "self-study", "distance learning" kind of thing? Very unorthodox where I come from -- Singapore.

Everyone here's really hung up about getting a degree from a "real university", and for that reason, people in my situation are viewed as "second class undergrads". Guess I proved them wrong! *laughs*

So does anyone have any advice regarding my impending doom in Summer School? How do I survive it? I'd hate to travel all the way to London, only to have to return with my tail between my legs with a "I failed my Econometrics" look on my face. :eek:

Reply 7

Pepin

Howdie, mate. I have also been accepted into the program and have the same summer school requirement :smile:

I will be attending the second summer session. Glancing over the course objectives/material, it appears it won't be much different from the regular one.

Good luck!

Reply 8

anandbatra

People on the MSc Fin and Eco/Acc and Fin/Eco programs, do join the facebook group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2370059395

Reply 9

student_london

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mammonite

I'm doing my undergrad via the LSE External Programme. It's a sort of "self-study", "distance learning" kind of thing? Very unorthodox where I come from -- Singapore.

Everyone here's really hung up about getting a degree from a "real university", and for that reason, people in my situation are viewed as "second class undergrads". Guess I proved them wrong! *laughs*

So does anyone have any advice regarding my impending doom in Summer School? How do I survive it? I'd hate to travel all the way to London, only to have to return with my tail between my legs with a "I failed my Econometrics" look on my face. :eek:

There's nothing wrong with your LSE External Programme. There are students that have done Phds in ECON at LSE with LSE external programs. However, it hasn't got a great value here in the UK. It's popular among foreign students that are so in love with LSE, who could potentially portray it as a geniune LSE degree when they go back.
I doubt that a I-bank will take you, solely based on that degree. Biggest downside, anyone can join the LSE external Program. But, anyway well done and congratulations.

Reply 10

mammonite

OP

student_london

There's nothing wrong with your LSE External Programme. There are students that have done Phds in ECON at LSE with LSE external programs. However, it hasn't got a great value here in the UK. It's popular among foreign students that are so in love with LSE, who could potentially portray it as a geniune LSE degree when they go back.
I doubt that a I-bank will take you, solely based on that degree. Biggest downside, anyone can join the LSE external Program. But, anyway well done and congratulations.

My point exactly, my friend. There's value in scarcity and the problem with the LSE External Programme is that there isn't any. That's why I need the MSc Finance & Economics if I want to have any chance with the I-banks.

Reply 11

student_london

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mammonite

My point exactly, my friend. There's value in scarcity and the problem with the LSE External Programme is that there isn't any. That's why I need the MSc Finance & Economics if I want to have any chance with the I-banks.

Well done, I think it will pay off b/c it's one of the most competitive programs at postgraduate level and you're combining 2 world-class departments :biggrin:

, i.e. A&F and Economics. Excellent!

Reply 12

Filou

mhh just out of curiosity...how do you guys afford your lse degree? I would like to to a taught master in the future but currently I'm just not able to afford it ;(

Reply 13

mammonite

OP

Filou

mhh just out of curiosity...how do you guys afford your lse degree? I would like to to a taught master in the future but currently I'm just not able to afford it ;(

Hey there. Doesn't look like anyone's interested in replying my cries for help/advice. Oh well...

Anyway, Filou, I have been working for a while, whilst studying for my BSc, so I do have some savings. But frankly, whatever I've managed to save, I've blown just covering the fees required for Summer School.

I am fortunate to have a large extended family and am the only child in my nuclear family. I started off with a small college fund about GBP10,000 (for my undergrad studies). However, I chose to take a job and study part-time, and invested my college fund instead. This was back in 2003-4, when the market was reeling from war and recession. Doubled that to GBP20,000 in the 3 years since. And have taken a GBP10,000 "interest-free loan" from family members and my beloved grandma.

Will be living on a shoestring budget once in London. Tuition will cost me GBP17,000, and Accommodation will likely set me back GBP7,500.

I'll be living on 10 quid a day. Hope I don't fall sick.

Reply 14

bojangles

Hi there!

I'm from Singapore too, and I got accepted into the above-mentioned course. I won't be taking it up as I prefer another university. The LSE Summer School course lists M Verbeek and W Greene as reading list. You could consult them. But, if you feel a little jittery about your fundamental econometrics, I suggest you start with C Dougherty' undergrad textbook. You should also get a good grounding in Linear Algebra, partial differentiation and constrained optimization, as graduate economics courses rely on these math areas.

Don't let the your introductory course performance hinder you. The way I see it is you've got into LSE! Build up the math skills slowly. You've still got 3 mths on hand.

Best of luck! - michelle

Reply 15

maxhk

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bojangles. which uni are you going to? Just out of curiosity, heh..

Reply 16

TheAmericanDream

Art History majors and people from tier-3-4 schools in the United States and elsewhere get into i-banks. I am pretty sure your MSc in Finance and Economics at LSE will get you a great position at an i-bank.

Reply 17

mammonite

OP

bojangles

Hi there!

I'm from Singapore too, and I got accepted into the above-mentioned course. I won't be taking it up as I prefer another university. The LSE Summer School course lists M Verbeek and W Greene as reading list. You could consult them. But, if you feel a little jittery about your fundamental econometrics, I suggest you start with C Dougherty' undergrad textbook. You should also get a good grounding in Linear Algebra, partial differentiation and constrained optimization, as graduate economics courses rely on these math areas.

Don't let the your introductory course performance hinder you. The way I see it is you've got into LSE! Build up the math skills slowly. You've still got 3 mths on hand.

Best of luck! - michelle

Hi there michelle (a.k.a. bojangles),

Thanks for bit of advice, and encouragement.

You sound like a confident individual, may I ask if you've had any work experience prior to pursuing this postgrad? Perhaps you're already established in i-banking and are simply looking to embellish your resume?

I'm curious, which degree/uni would trump the LSE's MSc in your books? Do tell.

Best regards,
Charles

Reply 18

yugoman

The Econometrics course doesn't seem that difficult it just seems like a lot of topics to cover and test in only 3 weeks. Not to mention that there is also supposed to be a Maths course as well.

Anyways, I got in too, but I'm not quite sure about one of these conditions. So here are the ones I got:

Condition 1: Official proof of qualifications
You must provide official proof of your degree or other main qualification results.

Condition 2: September course requirement for Economic students
You are required to attend the introductory courses beginning on 7 September 2007 and take the examinations at the end of September before proceeding with the degree programme.

Condition 3: Degree with min overall mark of
You are required to obtain your degree with a minimum overall mark of B+.

Now Condition 1 refers to my undergraduate degree which I just finished a couple of weeks ago. My question is: Does #3 refer to my undergraduate degree or the LSE degree? So do I have to show them that I finished my undergraduate with at least a B+ average or do I have to finish my MSc in Fin and Econ with at least a B+ average. Anybody know?

Reply 19

TheAmericanDream

^^^^ condition 3 refers to your undergraduate standing - they essentially want proof of grades via an official transcript.

LSE MSc Finance and Economics 2007-08

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