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Original post by Danny McCoyne
The self-hate is real. Not every black person has been to a ghetto or grown up in one. Stop pretending like you're the exception, I'm sure it gives you a great sense of personal accomplishment but you need to realise that having prejudices about your own race is not positive. If you as a black person think that all black people can be reduced to a single stereotype how do you expect white people to respect black people or more specifically how do you expect white people not to be prejudiced/racist against you?


There's this trend in the black community, and I'm sure it exists in other minority communities too, whereby a few attempt to distance themselves from their own people when they think they've 'made it' and they attempt to seek validation from white people as you have just done by insulting their own roots. IMO you're disgraceful.

I'm black, both my parents have multiple degrees including PhDs and "I've never been to a ghetto" so where is my prize?


It was tongue in cheek lmao
Original post by maggie43
You seem like a show off telling the internet about your life. And you truly have self hate. Are you Nigerian??

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I dont hate myself... I think I'm fabulous actually!

Nigerian/Chinese/Jamaican
Something like lower middle I guess.

I may as well be of the precariet class now though...
Original post by cole-slaw
Does your income derive from physical labour, human capital or physical capital?

(ie do you use your body, your brain or your wealth)?


body and brain. Im a trained carer working for the Irish health service specialising in dementia and alzhiemers care.

Liquid wealth is something i certainly dont have lol
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Working.
Original post by Princepieman
It was tongue in cheek lmao

Haha, very funny. Actually, my mum would think it is hilarious - she went to an Eton-equivalent all-girls school, yet if she so much as stuck her nose up at the milkman, he would have "accidently" dropped a cartoon of milk on her toes, and said "Whoops! You'll have to clean it up, won't you." There is no class in Australia, and if she went around announcing that she had two horses, and often went to the races and the opera, ppl would have just stared at her, and then the teasing would start: "Oh, sorry, shall I lick your shoes? I think I see a speck of dust on one of them." "Ah, maybe Her Royal Highness should go through first ... don't forget to bow, everyone!" etc. Tbh, I prefer the sound of that kind of society lol.
Reply 26
Original post by Mathematicus65
Hate how "working-class" has replaced the term lower class. Its incredibly disrespectful to the thousands of Middle class and the vast majority of upper class people who have worked incredibly hard to get where they are today. As much as leftists love to believe that anyone with money has had it passed to them, that is just pure imagination. Evidently, there are exceptions with a few aristocrats, that have had very special lives, but the vast majority of business owners, managers, millionaires didn't just wake up with a pot of gold at their front door step. It takes years of dedication and genius to make it to the top; and that should be respected.


I 100% agree with this. But unfortunately this will fall on mostly deaf ears on TSR
Original post by Treblebee
Haha, very funny. Actually, my mum would think it is hilarious - she went to an Eton-equivalent all-girls school, yet if she so much as stuck her nose up at the milkman, he would have "accidently" dropped a cartoon of milk on her toes, and said "Whoops! You'll have to clean it up, won't you." There is no class in Australia, and if she went around announcing that she had two horses, and often went to the races and the opera, ppl would have just stared at her, and then the teasing would start: "Oh, sorry, shall I lick your shoes? I think I see a speck of dust on one of them." "Ah, maybe Her Royal Highness should go through first ... don't forget to bow, everyone!" etc. Tbh, I prefer the sound of that kind of society lol.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, that is too funny, oh my days.

Seriously, Australia sounds like the land of top class banter. Are you guys still over there?
Original post by Princepieman
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, that is too funny, oh my days.

Seriously, Australia sounds like the land of top class banter. Are you guys still over there?


Haha from what I hear, it is! :tongue:
Unfortunately, no, I'm a Brit by birth, and this is where we live atm... probably should go to Aussie someday, as that's where all my relatives live... :,)
Reply 29
Original post by Danny McCoyne
I never claimed that wasn't the case so I do not understand why you have chosen to quote me especially when I wasn't addressing you. I refuse to talk about racial issues with white people because in my experience white people love to tout this colourblind ideology as a tool to erase black achievements and culture, while they wash their hands off all the violence, rape and pillaging they have done to people of colour, especially black people.

Let's examine why black people are more likely to live in a ghetto:

Residential segregation:

up until the late 60s black people and other minorities were not allowed to live in the affluent neighbourhoods as a result this lead to the concentration of minorities into segregated housing areas which lead rise to 'ghettos'. All the while, white people who lived in more prolific areas did so because of the government i.e. given loans or practically given free home which they passed on to their offspring. Black people were excluded from this.

Poverty:

Minorities made significantly less than their white counterparts and this wasn't because black and brown people were less skilled, no, but rather because of systemic racism in the job market and education system which are still happening today in 2015. Black people earned and still earn less so they have fewer, if any, opportunities to exercise their social mobility while white people have been getting richer with time because of POSITIVE discrimination. Not to mention that, having more money meant that parents could pass on more to their children which indeed was the case for a lot of white people, and this included homes or the wealth to purchase them. The effect of this generational wealth which was accumulated on the backs of black and brown people is still strong today and while I do acknowledge that the average white parents don't have much in the way of inheritance to pass on to their adult children, you cannot deny that living in a nicer area, attending a better and well-equipped school as well as having more money growing meant that these adult children have had a better foundation for adjusting into a well-earning job. Black people did not have these opportunities or rather they weren't allowed to have them.


I can go on but as I said earlier it's pointless to talk about racial issues with most white people because they are blind to their own prejudice and racism.


You Know, I'm just gonna report you being off topic then bother answering your babble about things from years ago
No idea.

When I was a kid :

-Born in a private clinic off the Champs Elysee.
-Mother worked for a governmental organisation at the time (OECD) and my father was a Police Detective.
-Moved to Leeds. Grew up in LS17 which is within the Golden Triangle where my parents owned our house outright.
-Went to a state primary school for a year, then private primary school for 4 years, then state primary school for 2 years, then state high school and state sixth form college
-After my dad left, my mam became a carer, but she also had income support.

Parental background :
Neither of my parents were originally from rich backgrounds.
My mother is the daughter of two Polish people who came to the UK after WWII. Once in the UK, my maternal grandmother worked in a cafe and my maternal grandfather was a mechanic.
My dad grew up in Paris but his family were not wealthy - they were a large family living in an apartment together. My paternal grandfather worked for the electricity board. No idea about my paternal grandmother.
Neither of my parents have a degree.

Further info :

A lot of my family have done well for themselves. Some are accountants and other professionals. One of my cousins has a managerial position for Edmond de Rothschild Investment Partners.
However they've all worked hard for their positions. Nobody came from a wealthy beginning.

My life now :
My husband and I own our house outright but we live in Barnsley.
Kids go to a state school. It's a beacon school though.
I drive a 65 plate Fiat 500L
I'm a writer and a carer. I take part in author's panels, and am a special guest at conventions and so on. My husband has lymphoedema (which is incurable) and is classed as disabled.
I have no savings.
I dropped out of Leeds Uni to have children.
My husband comes from a working class family - his dad was a miner until the pits closed in the 80s (Maggie is evil), and his mother is a carer at a residential home.

So what am I? No idea. A mish-mash.
Original post by Precious Illusions
Working.


gawd bless yer luv
I've started to have #middleclassissues...
Reply 33
Original post by the bear
gawd bless yer luv


Salt of the earth and all dat
Original post by sw651
Salt of the earth and all dat


if you need a luvverly bunch of daffs just ask Precious. say i sent yer. gaaargh.
Awesome class! :u:
Original post by sw651
You Know, I'm just gonna report you being off topic then bother answering your babble about things from years ago


Translation: I don't really know how to respond. AKA I'm grasping at straws. Lol

Really? You think talking about social issues like poverty and residential segregation in a topic about social class is off-topic?

You can report me all you like it won't assuage your white guilt.

And I didn't expect you read my post much less reply.
Reply 37
Original post by Danny McCoyne
Really? You think talking about social issues like poverty and residential segregation in a topic about social class is off-topic?

You can report me all you like it won't assuage your white guilt.

And I didn't expect you read my post much less reply.


What's the name of the thread? Residential segregation doesn't exist anymore unless it is self imposed.

And that is so incredibly discriminatory and racist I cannot fathom
Original post by sw651
What's the name of the thread? Residential segregation doesn't exist anymore unless it is self imposed.

And that is so incredibly discriminatory and racist I cannot fathom



Are you serious?

So I guess all the people who live in council estates and flats, choose to live there?

You clearly have no modicum of understanding of social issues or indeed how the real world works.
Reply 39
Original post by Danny McCoyne
Are you serious?

So I guess all the people who live in council estates and flats, choose to live there?

You clearly have no modicum of understanding of social issues or indeed how the real world works.


Excuse me? I thought we were talking racial issues here you idiot.
And I have a better idea than you, clearly you have a made up fantasy world in your head

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