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The Confederate states flag is considered racist in the USA as it supports slavery. It's also used by white supremacist groups like Arran Brotherhood. In some states the flag is illegal.

Should the flag also be banned or made illegal in Britain for being racist ?
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But I would never employ someone who had that piece of **** on any of their clothing items of anything


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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
The Confederate states flag is considered racist in the USA as it supports slavery. It's also used by white supremacist groups like Arran Brotherhood. In some states the flag is illegal.

Should the flag also be banned or made illegal in Britain for being racist ?
The confederate flag is not illegal in any U.S. state. Some people do consider it to be a symbol of racism however. For this reason some states have elected to remove it from certain government properties. If a private citizen wishes to fly the confederate flag on private property they are completely within their rights to do so.
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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
The Confederate states flag is considered racist in the USA as it supports slavery. It's also used by white supremacist groups like Arran Brotherhood. In some states the flag is illegal.

Should the flag also be banned or made illegal in Britain for being racist ?
No because we don't ban the Battle flag of the Whermact the state flag of nazi germany the SS flag and so on.
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I don't think it's in any way moral to ban images, no matter how offensive.

I can't see a truly justifiable reason for any flag to be banned. And it'd certainly be strange to ban the Confederate flag in Britain when we don't even ban the Nazi flag, which is a far more relevant symbol of racism in Britain.

But, no, I would consider it to be a gross violation of freedom of speech and freedom of belief. The state shouldn't encroach upon matters where direct harm is not caused upon a non-consenting individual. For the same reason I strongly object to the worryingly regular occurence of the police getting involved whenever someone tweets or posts on Facebook about something interpreted as "racist". It's not right to criminalise belief, and no matter how morally reprehensible we believe it to be, I don't think there is anything legally wrong with someone privately or even publicly harbouring racist views that do not infringe upon the rights of others.
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I don't think it's in any way moral to ban images, no matter how offensive.

I can't see a truly justifiable reason for any flag to be banned. And it'd certainly be strange to ban the Confederate flag in Britain when we don't even ban the Nazi flag, which is a far more relevant symbol of racism in Britain.

But, no, I would consider it to be a gross violation of freedom of speech and freedom of belief. The state shouldn't encroach upon matters where direct harm is not caused upon a non-consenting individual. For the same reason I strongly object to the worryingly regular occurence of the police getting involved whenever someone tweets or posts on Facebook about something interpreted as "racist". It's not right to criminalise belief, and no matter how morally reprehensible we believe it to be, I don't think there is anything legally wrong with someone privately or even publicly harbouring racist views that do not infringe upon the rights of others.

I totally agree with you on the facebook and twitter matter. Social media should be a place where people can feel free to speak as they like within reason. However people are almost scared to comment on some posts for fear of having their account terminated by FB . That's not freedom of speech, it's like living in a dictatorship! Youtube seems the only social media that is more tolerant.
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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
I totally agree with you on the facebook and twitter matter. Social media should be a place where people can feel free to speak as they like within reason. However people are almost scared to comment on some posts for fear of having their account terminated by FB . That's not freedom of speech, it's like living in a dictatorship! Youtube seems the only social media that is more tolerant.
Generally, I think it's the right of Facebook/Twitter/Youtube if they want to take down a post, video, or image. However I don't think it's right for the police to get involved. Recently the police in Britain have investigated everyone from Katie Hopkins to that girl from Birkbeck university who tweeted the hashtag "kill all white men". It just seems ridiculous. Like a journalist or a student making a stupid remark is going to cause genuine harm to any group of people.

There is a definite culture among some people in the UK who want to regulate, control, and censor information. It's very disturbing. Some of it comes from the left (Those Labour/Green nutjobs who fantasise about banning the Sun) and some from the right (David Cameron/Theresa May seeking to curb encrypted messaging services). I don't think any of it is correct or proper for a free society.
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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
The Confederate states flag is considered racist in the USA as it supports slavery. It's also used by white supremacist groups like Arran Brotherhood. In some states the flag is illegal.

Should the flag also be banned or made illegal in Britain for being racist ?
The Confederate flag isn't illegal anywhere in the USA; though very few states now fly it from public buildings. It's true that it's been hijacked by right wing extremists but it would be wrong to say that the Confederate flag stands only and exclusively for racism.

And no, it shouldn't be banned in the UK especially since far more potent symbols of racism are legal - ie a swastika flag.
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Well as I support the values the Confederacy stood for, and as it's my avatar, I say no it shouldn't be banned.
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Say what you will about the flag itself but is there really much need to ban something that is so infrequently used?
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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
The Confederate states flag is considered racist in the USA as it supports slavery.
Does it? The American Civil War was about rather more than slavery.
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(Original post by ckingalt)
The confederate flag is not illegal in any U.S. state. Some people do consider it to be a symbol of racism however. For this reason some states have elected to remove it from certain government properties. If a private citizen wishes to fly the confederate flag on private property they are completely within their rights to do so.
(Original post by Howard)
The Confederate flag isn't illegal anywhere in the USA; though very few states now fly it from public buildings. It's true that it's been hijacked by right wing extremists but it would be wrong to say that the Confederate flag stands only and exclusively for racism.

And no, it shouldn't be banned in the UK especially since far more potent symbols of racism are legal - ie a swastika flag.
Both of these things.

All of the new world posters on here seem so sensible and well-adjusted.
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No.
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No.
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