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I am currently living in the United States. I am really depressed about the state of education here. For the past three years I have gone to the best school in New York State (or so the principle claims) and we haven't even been introduced to grammar, the mathematics class is pathetic, and the history is purely US based. The only well developed class is the foreign language, although others tell me that I just got lucky because I study Italian, apparently only the Italian teacher actually teaches.

Now, down to my actual point. I would like to study in the UK, since my parents would stay here, I would probably need to find a boarding school. I would prefer coeducational since, I believe that single sex education is inherently unequal, and also since I imagine single sex schools to be like prison, where "bubba" pounds you in the ass.*

Can someone recommend a top [co-ed] IB boarding schools in the UK?
How does IB compare to A-levels? Are they equivalent? If not, which is better?

*common American stereotype about prison
Reply 1
privet Gosha :smile: (i assume by the name that youre from ex-USSR? )..anyway..

taking IB in no way gives you an advantage in UK university application...however it is actually considered harder than A-levels...and furthermore sometimes the offers are really strict and harsh depending on what subject and where you have applied to at Uni.

i take it that you are looking for a top fee-paying boarding school that is also coed?

here is a table with the options available:

http://www.top-schools.co.uk/league-tables/co-educational-boarding-schools.aspx

if you do wish to do IB then heres also a table you should look at:

http://www.top-schools.co.uk/league-tables/ib-schools.aspx

if you can afford the fees then id recommend the following:

Westminster
Sevenoaks
Rugby School
Charterhouse

all very good prestigious boarding co-ed schools (with option to be a day-boy)

(http://www.top-schools.co.uk/league-tables/senior-schools.aspx)

i would like to point out however that single sex schools arent that bad. many top private schools such as St.Pauls, Dulwich, City of London,Haberdashers to name just a few have "sister" schools for the opposite sex with which they have numerous activities (for example we have lessons together with our "sister school" more than once a week...not counting all the extra curric stuff such as drama etc which is done together on nearly a daily basis). trust me...not like prison at all.

St Pauls boys - St. Pauls Girls
City of London School for boys - C.o.L school for girls
Dulwich College - Jags
Haberdashers Boys School -Haberdasher's Aske's Girls School

too name just a few of the top of my head.

good luck. hope ive helped.

p.s what school in USA are you at? the best ones i know are : Groton, St.Pauls, Andover, Exter, Choate.
Reply 2
I don't see how going all the way to the UK is going to be the magic bullet for getting into a UK university. It seems a little extreme tbh. You might be better off staying in the same country as your parents, I'm sure it's possible to to IB somewhere in New York and if not, theres always the possibility of teaching yourself little extra bits and getting some qualifications out of school as well.
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Its a language college. I don't know how it compares to the schools named above.
Reply 4
How old are you out of curiosity? Here's a list of all the schools in the UK that offer the IB programme:
http://www.ibsca.org.uk/ibsca-index.htm

You'll have to go through the web links and see if they meet your requirements.

Sevenoaks is considered to be the best boarding school in the country that offers the IB. It's tough to get into for 6th Form (aged 16) though. Are you aware that fees for top boarding schools are now easily £24,000 a year (~£47,000), and that's before you've considered uniform costs and flights home? It's a big financial commitment when you consider the cost of college/university education (you aren't eligible for UK fee status if you're only in the UK to go to school) which you still have ahead of you.

As for the IB v.s. A Levels debate, neither is better, they both have their merits and disadvantages. The IB allows you to do more (6) subjects, and to cover a broad curriculum (which I know is big in the USA), whereas A Levels allow you to concentrate on your strengths. Most students do 4 subjects in their first year, and drop one to go down to three in their second year of sizth form study. The IB is considered to be the more time consuming of the two though.
Reply 5
Marlborough's where it's at, biatch :wink: Haha I have no idea what it's really like but it seems the coolest of the really posh boarding schools from what you hear and see, looks pretty mint.

Single-sex schools aren't bad...I went to an all-girls' schools for 5 years and much preferred it to the mixed school I'm at now (everyone's not gay at single-sex schools, by the way!)...but if you want a mixed one there's a lot of choice.

There's the posh ones, like Marlborough, the slightly less posh ones but still pretty darn posh, like Stonyhurst (really nice buildings and grounds), Ampleforth, Uppingham...Felsted's meant to be pretty swish. St Edward's in Oxford is supposed to be good, it looks alright. Denstone's pretty cool, and Abbotsholme is supposedly pretty good as well. St Peter's, Sedbergh, Rugby, QEGS (I think there's more than one Queen Ethelberga's though, dunno?). Worksop College is pretty exclusive, and Repton's pretty high up.
Reply 6
yea but places such as Stonyhurst and Ampleforth get relativly bad academic perforamances and small amounts into oxbridge comparaed to other private schools....dunno about the other ones since i havent heard of them before :s-smilie:
Reply 7
Stonyhurst and Ampleforth are fairly high up in the league tables actually, unless you're wanting to go for a proper posh one...they're both traditional Jesuit schools though, so you get a nice bit of Catholicism shoved down your throat...:s-smilie:
Reply 8
they arent high at all if you consider :

A-level results
GCSE results
% going into Oxbridge.

impressive buildings + alumni dont make a school amazing.

a school i particularly dislike is Wellington. they can only dream that their academic performance will match their arrogance. they think so highly of themsleves. LOL.
Reply 9
I didn't say impressive buildings make a school amazing, but their results aren't crap. They're better than my school anyway - which admittedly isn't hard - but for a school that's outside the top bracket (being Eton, Marlborough etc), I don't think their results are too shabby.
sorry but Marlborough is no way in Etons bracket. the schools that i would put into the top bracket are:

Eton, Westminster, Winchester, Harrow, Wycombe Abbey, St,Pauls (both boys + girls). these schools are excellent on GCSE results, A-level results and Oxbridge results. (some sending as much as 40% into Oxbridge :eek:)

these 6 schools are head and shoulders above the rest imo.
Reply 11
Usually 48-52% for Westminster :p:
Don't forget NLCS, it is the top school in England and wales, and has been for the past few years, with st Pauls (girls) and Wycombe Abbey close behind.
Wycombe Abbey is the top Boarding school. This is based on Exam results A-levels and GCSE's
Reply 13
abrp
sorry but Marlborough is no way in Etons bracket. the schools that i would put into the top bracket are:

Eton, Westminster, Winchester, Harrow, Wycombe Abbey, St,Pauls (both boys + girls). these schools are excellent on GCSE results, A-level results and Oxbridge results. (some sending as much as 40% into Oxbridge :eek:)

these 6 schools are head and shoulders above the rest imo.


Harrow? :rolleyes: It used to be but not anymore. It's gone waaaay down over the years, somewhere like Merchant Taylors that hasn't got the same prestige attached the name is way better. Harrow's been slipping down the league tables for years, it still resides in the 40s - 50s I think but as such it's definitely not in the top bracket.

Also, IB might generally be better than A Levels i.e. harder and more prestigious but universities don't see it that way and will give you harder offers to meet than they'd give your A Level counterparts despite the country saying how A levels are getting easier and easier.
Reply 14
Westminster is by far the best, because it's more unashamedly academic than most others. Winchester might be full of idiotic toffs, but Westminster is full of clever ones.
all of these schools are full of clever people :s-smilie:
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Stonyhurst and Ampleforth are fairly high up in the league tables actually, unless you're wanting to go for a proper posh one...they're both traditional Jesuit schools though, so you get a nice bit of Catholicism shoved down your throat...:s-smilie:


Stonyhurst is Jesuit. Ampleforth is Benedictine.

Both are high up the league tables to a degree, especially the 'value added' league tables. Both schools pretty much let anyone in if they are catholic (ampleforth has an exam but it isn't exactly common entrance!!!) but every child achieves way above what is expected for their abilities. Both schools have pupils of lower ability however the top 20% of each year are as 'gifted' as anyone at Winchester or Westminster and are kept apart academically so education doesn't suffer.

Both schools produce well rounded young people because of the 'mix' of abilities and a holistic education that the likes of even Eton and Winchester can only dream of. Not that both schools don't have problems e.g. drugs and previous incidents of kiddy fiddling etc :p: lol
this website:

http://www.boardingschools.co.uk/

has loads of information about single-sex & co-ed schools, daily life as a boarder, the uk schools system, school fees, the IB, getting a guardian...

Personally, i don't think people doing the IB have a big advantage because so few schools offer it that the unis can't really use it as a deciding factor.
If you want to do IB definitely Sevenoaks !!!! Last year they had 9 people recieving the maximum amount of 45 points at IB (only 50 do this world wide!). It also has a great reputation of getting students into Oxbridge- sorry if im singing its praises too much !- im going in September for 6th form !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wink: so excited (as you can prob tell!) xxx