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Tammy: 11 year old prepubescent boy undergoing gender reassignment.
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Although this occured back in 2011, it still raises questions of controversial gender reassignment surgery.
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Tammy, previously Thomas, was unable to speak about his "I'm a girl" feelings due to a speech impediment; his parents, both lesbians, "are adamant they have not pressurised him into making the decision to become a girl" (Huffington Post, 2011).
"At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, psychiatrists diagnosed Thomas with gender identity disorder. By age eight, he began transitioning."
The question here is whether it is right for a child to undergo such lifechanging surgeries at such a young age. If not, at what age should it be allowed?
You can find the article in its entirety @ http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011...n_7384790.html
What are thoughts on this case in particular and gender dysphoria / sex change in general?
Tammy, previously Thomas, was unable to speak about his "I'm a girl" feelings due to a speech impediment; his parents, both lesbians, "are adamant they have not pressurised him into making the decision to become a girl" (Huffington Post, 2011).
"At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, psychiatrists diagnosed Thomas with gender identity disorder. By age eight, he began transitioning."
The question here is whether it is right for a child to undergo such lifechanging surgeries at such a young age. If not, at what age should it be allowed?
You can find the article in its entirety @ http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011...n_7384790.html
What are thoughts on this case in particular and gender dysphoria / sex change in general?
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I dont have an opinion, to be honest because I do not know much about this topic.
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I dont have an opinion, to be honest because I do not know much about this topic.
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You might also be interested in watching Sargon of Akkad's personal take on it @https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noMMVUfRv5A
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He's someone I follow frequently on YouTube and he covers a lot of other social topics on his YouTube account.
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I dont have an opinion, to be honest because I do not know much about this topic.
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I dont have an opinion, to be honest because I do not know much about this topic.
I find it hard to believe 8 year olds can make decisions about gender reassignment by their own. Especially in this case where it's in fact the parents who made the choice.
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Thats great to hear. Its pretty horrifying when all these kids have to wait until after they have reached puberty to have the surgery, its basically torture.
There is nothing controversial about this, unless you are transphobic.
There is nothing controversial about this, unless you are transphobic.
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(Original post by The Blue Axolotl)
Sure, but it doesn't take away the fact how controversial this topic is.
I find it hard to believe 8 year olds can make decisions about gender reassignment by their own. Especially in this case where it's in fact the parents who made the choice.
Sure, but it doesn't take away the fact how controversial this topic is.
I find it hard to believe 8 year olds can make decisions about gender reassignment by their own. Especially in this case where it's in fact the parents who made the choice.
The child has a disorder. Considering the severity of his issues, this is the best known treatment. I doubt they would just agree to this readily.
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Thats great to hear. Its pretty horrifying when all these kids have to wait until after they have reached puberty to have the surgery, its basically torture.
There is nothing controversial about this, unless you are transphobic.
Thats great to hear. Its pretty horrifying when all these kids have to wait until after they have reached puberty to have the surgery, its basically torture.
There is nothing controversial about this, unless you are transphobic.
You simply can't accuse someone of transphobia for having an opinion which doesn't match your own. Don't resort to black-and-white logical fallicies, please.
The controversy of this is the age, shouldn't we wait until he/she recognises the full extent of gender reassignment. There is also a controversy on how the parents had the say and not their kid.
Torture would be ripping off there genitals and then realising they made a mistake.
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INB4 the rest of the "transphobic!" band wagon arrives!
You simply can't accuse someone of transphobia for having an opinion which doesn't match your own. Don't resort to black-and-white logical fallicies, please.
The controversy of this is the age, shouldn't we wait until he/she recognises the full extent of gender reassignment. There is also a controversy on how the parents had the say and not their kid.
Torture would be ripping of there genitals and then realising they made a mistake.
INB4 the rest of the "transphobic!" band wagon arrives!
You simply can't accuse someone of transphobia for having an opinion which doesn't match your own. Don't resort to black-and-white logical fallicies, please.
The controversy of this is the age, shouldn't we wait until he/she recognises the full extent of gender reassignment. There is also a controversy on how the parents had the say and not their kid.
Torture would be ripping of there genitals and then realising they made a mistake.
It isn't that controversial. He is 8 years old. His viewpoint was clear when he threatened to cut his own genitals off.
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(Original post by driftawaay)
Thats great to hear. Its pretty horrifying when all these kids have to wait until after they have reached puberty to have the surgery, its basically torture.
There is nothing controversial about this, unless you are transphobic.
Thats great to hear. Its pretty horrifying when all these kids have to wait until after they have reached puberty to have the surgery, its basically torture.
There is nothing controversial about this, unless you are transphobic.
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There have been other cases of this too. One in which the child grew up to regret the decision made for him. I will try and find the article for it.
There have been other cases of this too. One in which the child grew up to regret the decision made for him. I will try and find the article for it.
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At the age of 16 I couldn't decide if I was a Zayne or Harry fangirl.
At the age of 19 I still can't decide if I should get bangs.
But sure, trust an 8-year old's clarity of thought and his decisions.
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No one is ripping off any genitals. They are delaying puberty. He has many years to decide what he would like to.
It isn't that controversial. He is 8 years old. His viewpoint was clear when he threatened to cut his own genitals off.
No one is ripping off any genitals. They are delaying puberty. He has many years to decide what he would like to.
It isn't that controversial. He is 8 years old. His viewpoint was clear when he threatened to cut his own genitals off.
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At the age of 6 I couldn't decide if I was a Lala or a Tinky Winky.
At the age of 16 I couldn't decide if I was a Zayne or Harry fangirl.
At the age of 19 I still can't decide if I should get bangs.
But sure, trust an 8-year old's clarity of thought and his decisions.
At the age of 6 I couldn't decide if I was a Lala or a Tinky Winky.
At the age of 16 I couldn't decide if I was a Zayne or Harry fangirl.
At the age of 19 I still can't decide if I should get bangs.
But sure, trust an 8-year old's clarity of thought and his decisions.
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At the age of 6 I couldn't decide if I was a Lala or a Tinky Winky.
At the age of 16 I couldn't decide if I was a Zayne or Harry fangirl.
At the age of 19 I still can't decide if I should get bangs.
But sure, trust an 8-year old's clarity of thought and his decisions.
At the age of 6 I couldn't decide if I was a Lala or a Tinky Winky.
At the age of 16 I couldn't decide if I was a Zayne or Harry fangirl.
At the age of 19 I still can't decide if I should get bangs.
But sure, trust an 8-year old's clarity of thought and his decisions.
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I'm so glad that we, as a society, have reached a stage of progressivism that we are now allowing 8 year olds to undergo irreversible surgery for resolving potential temporary conflicts. Fantastic.
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Uses ____________-phobic to rebut any coherent arguments against one's position
Uses ____________-phobic to rebut any coherent arguments against one's position
Godwin's Law is strong with her and them all.
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