Can you do the LPC with a 2:2 degree?

dragon_1706

Yes, you can definitely do the LPC with a 2.2

I imagine you'd be accepted to do the LPC without so much as a GCSE to your name if the institution had a place and you had 8 grand to give them... :p:

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kirstinx

Yes but getting a training contract will be difficult.

Depends where you get your 2.ii from.

Reply 7

No, it really doesn't... a 2ii from anywhere will be equally "frowned" upon.

Reply 8

litispendence

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I don't really believe that Lewis! A 2.2 from Oxbridge compared with a 2.2 from some ex poly? I think it makes a difference!

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Either way, the post suggested that a 2ii from Oxbridge would somehow make finding a TC non-difficult. Somehow, I doubt that very very much. The best academic opportunities in britain and you still only got a 2ii...

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Thing is it doesn't really matter where you get the 2:2 from because the employer isn't going to get as far down the pile of CVs to yours to see which uni you went to - there are far too many great candidates getting a 1st or a 2:1 to need to bother.

Most big firms won't even allow you to apply unless you have at least a 2:1.

Of course there are stories of people getting TC's with a 2:2 but personally I wouldn't have even taken the LPC if I'd have got one; I haven't got that sort of fight in me!! :rolleyes:

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Everyone I've heard of getting TCs with 2iis have been incredibly connected. Decent TCs that is, they can probably get something somewhere after all.

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dragon_1706

Lewisy-boy

Everyone I've heard of getting TCs with 2iis have been incredibly connected. Decent TCs that is, they can probably get something somewhere after all.

Are you implying they've got TCs because of who they know? Because I know of several who've got TCs at good firms without anything like that - it isn't the end of the world.

Reply 13

dragon_1706

Because I know of several who've got TCs at good firms without anything like that - it isn't the end of the world.

It isn't the end of the world, true, but it makes it a hell of a lot more difficult.
Maybe I'm just lacking in self-belief, but as I said before, I wouldn't have even done the LPC with a 2:2 - it just seems like too much of a gamble to me.

I've got a friend with a 2:2 from a terrible uni, doing their LPC at the same terrible uni, no extra-curriculars, no work experience, no part-time job - nada on their CV. Now personally I think he's an absolute fool for taking the LPC and that his job prospects are so low that he is simply wasting his time.
Maybe I'm being overly harsh and I think that everyone should be positive and aim high, but at the same time you have to be realistic and not border on delusional!

Reply 14

It's not a risk I'd be willing to take - but everyone should assess their own chances and there's no way I'll think any less of someone for taking a chance or so.

It isn't impossible, but as noted it becomes a whole lot harder - even if it is from Oxbridge. As is always said: the institution isn't everything!

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Lewisy-boy

No, it really doesn't... a 2ii from anywhere will be equally "frowned" upon.

Quite frankly, that is absolute bull. A 2.ii from Oxbridge/London is far more respected than a 2i from an ex-poly. Employers will look down the pile of CVs and look at the university attended and degree classification.
There are so many misguided individuals who claim that your career is already over before it began if you get a 2.ii. This simply isn't correct.

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cutandpasteandtwisty

Quite frankly, that is absolute bull. A 2.ii from Oxbridge/London is far more respected than a 2i from an ex-poly. Employers will look down the pile of CVs and look at the university attended and degree classification. There are so many misguided individuals who claim that your career is already over before it began if you get a 2.ii. This simply isn't correct.

No they won't.

When you apply for big firms like Clifford Chance, A&O, Nabarro, etc etc the first page of the application link is a form to fill in stating your UCAS points and expected degree classification. If you don't reach their UCAS points target and expected degree classification, you cannot continue onto actually filling in the application form. There isn't a little box to tick saying "People who are not getting 2:1s+ but go to Oxbridge..."

Even at high street level this is often applied.
A friend of mine is an admin assistant in small high street firm in Sheffield; when applicants send CVs, it's her job to separate into piles 1st/2:1s and 2:2s. The recruitment guy only sends for the 2:2 IF he didn't get his quota of interview candidates from the 2:1 pile.

Your career may not be over before it's begun; nobody has said that.
We are correctly stating it's a lot more difficult and much more of a gamble.

EDIT: We are not debating prestige of 2:2 from Oxbridge vs 2:1 from ex-poly on this thread; we've been talking about the practicalities of gaining employment/doing LPC with a 2:2.

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cutandpasteandtwisty

Quite frankly, that is absolute bull. A 2.ii from Oxbridge/London is far more respected than a 2i from an ex-poly. Employers will look down the pile of CVs and look at the university attended and degree classification.
There are so many misguided individuals who claim that your career is already over before it began if you get a 2.ii. This simply isn't correct.

Additionally however, what's this bit about??!!!

So a degree from any London uni is regarded more highly than one from any ex-poly? Ridiculous. I'm sure there are appalling London universities. Any I'm digressing; just reread your post and noticed that bit!!

Reply 18

ellewoods

No they won't.

When you apply for big firms like Clifford Chance, A&O, Nabarro, etc etc the first page of the application link is a form to fill in stating your UCAS points and expected degree classification. If you don't reach their UCAS points target and expected degree classification, you cannot continue onto actually filling in the application form.

Even at high street level this is often applied.
A friend of mine is an admin assistant in small high street firm in Sheffield; when applicants send CVs, it's her job to separate into piles 1st/2:1s and 2:2s. The recruitment guy only sends for the 2:2 IF he didn't get his quota of interview candidates from the 2:1 pile.

Your career may not be over before it's begun; nobody has said that.
We are correctly stating it's a lot more difficult and much more of a gamble.

Why would employers do this? It doesn't make sense. Even a first from somewhere like MMU does not compare to a 2.ii from LSE. Also, this can't be true since I know plenty of people with 2.iis who've gone on to do the CPE and now have TCs - unless of course the quality of candidates in the '2.i pile' was below average that year :rolleyes:

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