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    Hello,

    Has anyone applied for this course and has heard anything from the admissions team?
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    Hey,
    I applied for this course and got my admissions offer last week
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    (Original post by mhk93)
    Hey,
    I applied for this course and got my admissions offer last week
    I got mine too late January! So have you decided whether to take this course?
    What is your background by the way?
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    (Original post by AppliedMaths)
    I got mine too late January! So have you decided whether to take this course?
    What is your background by the way?
    Yeah, so I have done my undergraduate degree in aerospace engineering from Pakistan.
    The course is my first preference, but I am really worried about the job prospects for international sudents after graduation.
    What about you? What is your background and your view on the course?
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    (Original post by mhk93)
    Yeah, so I have done my undergraduate degree in aerospace engineering from Pakistan.
    The course is my first preference, but I am really worried about the job prospects for international sudents after graduation.
    What about you? What is your background and your view on the course?
    I have a background in mathematics. I spoke to an alumnus and he said that this course is insanely demanding and students worked 24/7 for the entire year. His cohort was warned at the beginning that this is the hardest course in Imperial. I have offers from other institutions and still waiting for replies from others but for now Imperial is my first choice. The course is highly computational in its nature and apparently there is a few non-computational modules. I have no formal background in Fortran so I will aim to start learning it during the summer after my degree.
    Also there is little fluid dynamics. I will ask the department for more details about the course structure before I pay for my deposit. I think if you graduate from Imperial you can find jobs easier (it will be tough still) given that you are an international student. If you can find a project with the industry then that should increase your chances of being employed (I was informed). There are some international students whom I found in LinkedIn who did this course and they are working here or in Europe so I all hope of being employed is not lost. You will particularly struggle looking for jobs in the defence-related sector as you will not meet the nationality or residence requirements. Nonetheless, I have a couple of international students friends who secured employments here in the UK after they did their MEng from a different uni.
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    (Original post by AppliedMaths)
    I have a background in mathematics. I spoke to an alumnus and he said that this course is insanely demanding and students worked 24/7 for the entire year. His cohort was warned at the beginning that this is the hardest course in Imperial. I have offers from other institutions and still waiting for replies from others but for now Imperial is my first choice. The course is highly computational in its nature and apparently there is a few non-computational modules. I have no formal background in Fortran so I will aim to start learning it during the summer after my degree.
    Also there is little fluid dynamics. I will ask the department for more details about the course structure before I pay for my deposit. I think if you graduate from Imperial you can find jobs easier (it will be tough still) given that you are an international student. If you can find a project with the industry then that should increase your chances of being employed (I was informed). There are some international students whom I found in LinkedIn who did this course and they are working here or in Europe so I all hope of being employed is not lost. You will particularly struggle looking for jobs in the defence-related sector as you will not meet the nationality or residence requirements. Nonetheless, I have a couple of international students friends who secured employments here in the UK after they did their MEng from a different uni.
    Is there any particular reason why you decided to shift from mathematics to aerospace?
    Yes I have heard about the difficulty of the program but I guess that is why Imperial is the best for aerospace across Europe. So much for our social life in London
    Yeah Matlab and Fortran are the two programming languages that are predominantly used in the aerospace industry so you should work on learning them. I think the course website provides some useful links to learn Fortran so you can look them up for reference.
    I am also waiting for replies from other institutes before I actually decide. I have applied mostly to universities in the States so I am expecting replies in a couple of weeks. I guess you are right about the employment situation. Plus I have also heard that brand name is really important in UK so if you graduate from a top university getting a job is easier (my siblings are LSE graduates). I am just worried about the new policy that was passed last August. I think international students can now only stay up to two months after graduation. I am just wondering if two months are enough to actually land a job after graduation.
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    (Original post by mhk93)
    Is there any particular reason why you decided to shift from mathematics to aerospace?
    Yes I have heard about the difficulty of the program but I guess that is why Imperial is the best for aerospace across Europe. So much for our social life in London
    Yeah Matlab and Fortran are the two programming languages that are predominantly used in the aerospace industry so you should work on learning them. I think the course website provides some useful links to learn Fortran so you can look them up for reference.
    I am also waiting for replies from other institutes before I actually decide. I have applied mostly to universities in the States so I am expecting replies in a couple of weeks. I guess you are right about the employment situation. Plus I have also heard that brand name is really important in UK so if you graduate from a top university getting a job is easier (my siblings are LSE graduates). I am just worried about the new policy that was passed last August. I think international students can now only stay up to two months after graduation. I am just wondering if two months are enough to actually land a job after graduation.
    I too am waiting from a US university but they told me that it may take a while for them to get back to me. I love fluid dynamics and its a niche I want to explore; its computational aspect is promising both in the industry and the academia. Branding still matters and I am almost certain about that. Also, if you're an international student with an MSc from Imperial. Why the heck will you apply for a job that will only pay you less than 35K in 5 years? It sounds counterproductive financially. US is a dying country and I don't see myself living there apart from probably doing another graduate degree. Let me know if you are definitely going to Imperial as it will be nice to meet some people before starting the course as we might not have time to break the ice.
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    (Original post by AppliedMaths)
    Also, if you're an international student with an MSc from Imperial. Why the heck will you apply for a job that will only pay you less than 35K in 5 years? It sounds counterproductive financially. US is a dying country and I don't see myself living there apart from probably doing another graduate degree. Let me know if you are definitely going to Imperial as it will be nice to meet some people before starting the course as we might not have time to break the ice.
    Sorry I didn't understand what you meant by applying for a job that pays you less than 35k in 5 years?
    Yes definitely. Ill pm you once I finalize my decision.
    Btw my name is Hamza.
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    (Original post by mhk93)
    Sorry I didn't understand what you meant by applying for a job that pays you less than 35k in 5 years?
    Yes definitely. Ill pm you once I finalize my decision.
    Btw my name is Hamza.
    Sorry that was not clear. I think what the government is doing is that if some international students wants to stay and work in the UK. Their salary should be no less than 35K per year after 5 years of working... otherwise they might face deportation.
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    (Original post by AppliedMaths)
    Sorry that was not clear. I think what the government is doing is that if some international students wants to stay and work in the UK. Their salary should be no less than 35K per year after 5 years of working... otherwise they might face deportation.
    Oh okay. Yeah that wouldn't make sense.
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    I have also been offered a place in this course.I am a mechanical engineer with 10 years of experience in aerospace industry.
    I quite liked the course content and I am also impressed with the reputation of Imperial.
    I am too worried about the career opportunities for international students in the UK.
    Let me know what you guys are going to decide.
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    Do not learn any Fortran ever... Stick with languages used in academia and industry, e.g C++/Python, the course is almost entirely Matlab (shamefully so) although I did a fair portion in Python. You will never be asked to know Fortran in your life, every solver has been moved to C++ by now and if it hasn't well there's a few reasons why and they're all bad. I highly recommend pushing for your thesis to be in C++ C# Python or something of the like as it gives you a real edge in industry when everybody else has a faint grasp of Matlab.
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    Dear Ross_impcol,
    Are you a current student of this course?
    I was curious to know about the job peospects after the completion of the course.
    Is it possible to get distinction in this course?
    How many units/credits are assigned to compulsory courses?
    What are chances of getting into PhD at imperial after completion of the course.
    Thanks and Regards
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    No, I graduated from the course just this year.
    Job prospects are excellent. I have heard of no complaints with some going to work for Airbus doing satellites and some like myself heading to the City.
    Yes, if you have the capacity.
    That's not really the way to think about it, just take a safe number like 16.
    Pretty good if you are obviously talented, know the professors and can get the funding, I have a few friends who are now PhD at Imperial and elsewhere.
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    Thank you very much. By the way, It is also about a lot of money to be paid at Imperial.I have got offers from other Universities like Leeds, Sheffield, Queen Mary and Brunel as well.
    Some of them are also giving scholarships. After spending about 40000 pounds, job security is a first priority. But, yes, Reputation of Imperial has no comparison with other Universities.
    How difficult was the course?
    How was the research project?
    I also wanted to know, roughly though, the percentage of international students getting work permit in the UK.
    Thanks.
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    (Original post by ross_impcol)
    Do not learn any Fortran ever... Stick with languages used in academia and industry, e.g C++/Python, the course is almost entirely Matlab (shamefully so) although I did a fair portion in Python. You will never be asked to know Fortran in your life, every solver has been moved to C++ by now and if it hasn't well there's a few reasons why and they're all bad. I highly recommend pushing for your thesis to be in C++ C# Python or something of the like as it gives you a real edge in industry when everybody else has a faint grasp of Matlab.
    Hello,

    I am a bit conflicted now. I was told by someone that a lot of emphasis are put on to learning Fortran. Coming from a Maths department, I hardly know how to program in C++. How much should I learn of it before I start my course?
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    (Original post by ross_impcol)
    No, I graduated from the course just this year.
    Job prospects are excellent. I have heard of no complaints with some going to work for Airbus doing satellites and some like myself heading to the City.
    Yes, if you have the capacity.
    That's not really the way to think about it, just take a safe number like 16.
    Pretty good if you are obviously talented, know the professors and can get the funding, I have a few friends who are now PhD at Imperial and elsewhere.
    Hi Ross,

    So for example, to get a merit a student must obtain 12 or more units with 60% average. Does that mean that I have to take those 12+ units just from the modules during the autumn and spring semesters, excluding the project?

    How many units do the Individual Project have?

    thanks,
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    The 12 is summed over taught units in the 2 semesters and does not include the individual project, which is distinct but 60% must also be achieved on that.
 
 
 
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