Non-Russell group degree = less likely to get a job? Watch

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I was just thinking about this.

I know it depends on the degree classification and subject, but will getting a degree from e.g. Nottingham Trent or Manchester metropolitan or any ex-poly put you at a disadvantage?

So say a 2:1 in History from Manchester metropolitan vs. a 2:1 in History from the University of Manchester. Are they both equal in terms of value and worth?
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i'd stick to ranking rather than russel vs non russel. Some great non russel uni's too.
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Depends, teaching no, law,yes.
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Medicine is an example of a course where it doesn't matter what university you took it at.
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Depends, teaching no, law,yes.
Ok, what if you just want a 9-5 office job? Will thr university you studied at be taken into account?
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You can still get a job if you don't go to a Russell Group university. The Russell Group is overrated anyway, it's the G5 universities that are the pinnacle of academe in my view. There are plenty of decent non-RG unis - St Andrews, Lancaster, Bath for example
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I go to a University that is ranked higher than many Russell group unis - I may be biased, but I would have thought rank would be more important than its status as a RG.
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I mean a good job, enough for house, mortgage, a car and bills, amongst other things.
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Few people outside of TSR and universities know what the Russell Group is.

Much of the recent obsession about the Russell Group on TSR is probably a result of marketing. 5 years ago, people didn't seem to be that bothered about the Russell Group; instead, it was rankings - usually top 10 or top 20. But in the last few years there does seem to be a marked increased in people talking about the Russell Group, and I have also noticed that universities that are a member of it use it as a selling point too.
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(Original post by Taimmi)
I go to a University that is ranked higher than many Russell group unis - I may be biased, but I would have thought rank would be more important than its status as a RG.
So the university you attend wouldn't impact on your chances of being called for a job interview?
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Look at employer rep from several sources, and graduate prospects.

RG is an arbitrary collection of research-based unis, and some non-RGs have world-leading faculties in certain courses (St. Andrews - English Lit./ Bath -Architecture)

@Pride&Prejudice What career path do you wanna go down?
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Look at employer rep from several sources, and graduate prospects.

RG is an arbitrary collection of research-based unis, and some non-RGs have world-leading faculties in certain courses (St. Andrews - English Lit./ Bath -Architecture)

@Pride&Prejudice What career path do you wanna go down?
Well I'm in my first year of Law at Manchester, but I don't want to be solicitor or anything legal related tbh.

I just want an office job, maybe a civil servant - but isn't that competitive? Do I stand a chance?
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So the university you attend wouldn't impact on your chances of being called for a job interview?
Unlikely I would have thought. On a serious note pick the uni you feel happiest at then you will do well in your studies and get a decent grade.

What were you thinking of studying?
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Russell goup doesnt mean anything. Most RG unis are ****
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(Original post by Bill_Gates)
i'd stick to ranking rather than russel vs non russel. Some great non russel uni's too.
Neither is particularly reliable. Some really questionable rankings out there.
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Unlikely I would have thought. On a serious note pick the uni you feel happiest at then you will do well in your studies and get a decent grade.

What were you thinking of studying?
I'm already at university, I'm in my first year of law, I was just thinking whether my degree is worth studying.
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Manchester's got a decent rep, I shouldn't worry other than for super-high powered jobs Perhaps try doing a postgraduate at a higher-ranked uni to capitalise on its name?
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Manchester's got a decent rep, I shouldn't worry other than for super-high powered jobs Perhaps try doing a postgraduate at a higher-ranked uni to capitalise on its name?
I did want to study till masters, but I don't know how the funding for that is like.
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(Original post by Pride&Prejudice)
Ok, what if you just want a 9-5 office job? Will thr university you studied at be taken into account?
I don't think it makes a lot of difference to most employers where you get your degree from. The FT 100 companies may be more snobbish and only want people from oxbridge or the Russell group.

I have a BSc from a RG uni and a MSc from a 1992 uni and no-one has ever mentioned anything about where I got my degrees from when I applied for jobs and I have worked in the NHS and in private companies.

Actually, I tell a lie, one person did ask me about my BSc but only because he went to the same uni as me.
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(Original post by Pride&Prejudice)
I'm already at university, I'm in my first year of law, I was just thinking whether my degree is worth studying.
Yeah just seen the post that you are at Manchester - which is a RG uni and well regarded, assuming that you mean Uni of Manchester - but either way sure you will do fine.

My mum works with people in local government with degrees from all sorts of unis (including ex polys - her immediate boss is a MMU graduate).

I'm in my second year at Man Met but I do a health care related subject so the uni status thing isn't really an issue for me (U of Manchester was my insurance choice).

Sure you will be fine!
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