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Ralfskini
lgx+lgy=lg3 (1)
lg(3x+y)=1 (2)

From (1): xy=3 ---> y=3/x

lg(3x+y)=1, so 3x+y=10.

3x+3/x=10
3x^2-10x+3=0
(3x-1)(x-3)=0
x=1/3, x=3
when x=1/3, y=9
when x=3, y=1

(and they worked when I checked them).

yes thats what (1) should of been but they made a mistake in the book and made (1)lgx+lgy=1000.
so the eqn would not work if that is the case.
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IntegralAnomaly
yes thats what (1) should of been but they made a mistake in the book and made (1)lgx+lgy=1000.
so the eqn would not work if that is the case.


agreed
IntegralAnomaly
yes thats what (1) should of been but they made a mistake in the book and made (1)lgx+lgy=1000.
so the eqn would not work if that is the case.


well that mistake wasn't made in my book.
Ralfskini
well that mistake wasn't made in my book.

really?i thought these books were batched produced....
TheWolf
from my book:

(1) = lg x + lg y = 1000

yeh same here...but ralfskini's is how it is supposed to be i reckon
lgs98jonee
2cosxcos50-sinxsin50=sinxcos40+cosxsin40
2cos50-tanxsin50=tanxcos40+sin40
so 2cos50-sin40=tanx(cos40+sin50)
so tan x= (2cos50-sin40)/(cos40+sin50)
so x= tan-1 of all that


this is wrong!

2cos(x+50) = sin (x+40)
2(cosxcos50-sinxsin50) = sinxcos40 + cosxsin40
divide by cosx
2(cos50 - tanxsin50) = tanxcos40 + sin40

because cosx = sin(90 - x) => cos40 = sin50

2cos50 - 2tansxsin50 = tanxsin50 + cos50
2cos50 - cos50 = 3tanxsin50
cos50 = 3tanxsin50
tan50 = 3tanx

tanx = tan50/3
x = 21.665 and 201.665

well, It's different from what the answer say but you must forgive me. It is two in the morning and i've had too many glases of wine.

MB
musicboy
this is wrong!

2cos(x+50) = sin (x+40)
2(cosxcos50-sinxsin50) = sinxcos40 + cosxsin40
divide by cosx
2(cos50 - tanxsin50) = tanxcos40 + sin40

because cosx = sin(90 - x) => cos40 = sin50

2cos50 - 2tansxsin50 = tanxsin50 + cos50
2cos50 - cos50 = 3tanxsin50
cos50 = 3tanxsin50
tan50 = 3tanx

tanx = tan50/3
x = 21.665 and 201.665

well, It's different from what the answer say but you must forgive me. It is two in the morning and i've had too many glases of wine.

MB

well i get the right answers anyway with mine



lgs98jonee
2cosxcos50-2sinxsin50=sinxcos40+cosxsin40
2cos50-2tanxsin50=tanxcos40+sin40
so 2cos50-sin40=tanx(cos40+2sin50)
so tan x= (2cos50-sin40)/(cos40+2sin50)
so x= tan-1 of all that



I had missed out a 2 that is all... Surely you have overcomplicated it by miles musicboy
musicboy
this is wrong!

2cos(x+50) = sin (x+40)
2(cosxcos50-sinxsin50) = sinxcos40 + cosxsin40
divide by cosx
2(cos50 - tanxsin50) = tanxcos40 + sin40

because cosx = sin(90 - x) => cos40 = sin50

2cos50 - 2tansxsin50 = tanxsin50 + cos50
2cos50 - cos50 = 3tanxsin50
cos50 = 3tanxsin50
tan50 = 3tanx

tanx = tan50/3
x = 21.665 and 201.665

well, It's different from what the answer say but you must forgive me. It is two in the morning and i've had too many glases of wine.

MB


I get 15.6 and 195.6

Your answers don't work.
yeah mine do though
I am aware that it doesn't work. I was just wondering why.

MB
musicboy

cos50 = 3tanxsin50
tan50 = 3tanx

MB

You have divided by sin50 to give tan50 - not correct as u know
lgs98jonee
You have divided by sin50 to give tan50 - not correct as u know

oops, yes. Damn, I should have spotted that. Admittedly when I posted it I had had 2 bottles of wine in the evening (I know it'ss excessive)


MB
musicboy
oops, yes. Damn, I should have spotted that. Admittedly when I posted it I had had 2 bottles of wine in the evening (I know it'ss excessive)


MB



..still a good attempt considering what you'd had to drink. :smile:
Reply 33
Hoofbeat
I asked about that question a while ago. There's a printing error in the question, and we were trying to work out what it should have said, but we couldn't. So I'm afraid you'll just have to leave that question. Normally, the methods involve getting rid of the logs and sovling simultaneously like normal.

TheWolf
can anyone do p2 examination style paper pg 189 heinemann book question 1?



i got iT..... PIECE OF CAKE!

lg x + lg y = lg 3

lg ( 3x + y ) = 1


Using laws of logs:

lg x + lg y = lg 3 ----------> lg xy = lg 3

so XY=3 {x= 3/y} and { Y= 3/x}

Substritue in EQ.2:

lg ( 3x+ 3/x) = 1

Since base of logs is 10, then 3x+ 3/x = 10

3x+ 3/x = 10 < Multiply by X?

3x^2 + 3 + 10X=0
Factorising:
(3x-3)(x-1) X=1

XY= 3 so Y=3

I DID IT!!!!
REDO to get the other set!
Reply 34
lg x + lg y = lg 3
Can you not say lgx+lgy-lx3=0 Then use rules of log.
Reply 35
KOH
i got iT..... PIECE OF CAKE!

lg x + lg y = lg 3

lg ( 3x + y ) = 1


Using laws of logs:

lg x + lg y = lg 3 ----------> lg xy = lg 3

so XY=3 {x= 3/y} and { Y= 3/x}

Substritue in EQ.2:

lg ( 3x+ 3/x) = 1

Since base of logs is 10, then 3x+ 3/x = 10

3x+ 3/x = 10 < Multiply by X?

3x^2 + 3 + 10X=0
Factorising:
(3x-3)(x-1) X=1

XY= 3 so Y=3

I DID IT!!!!
REDO to get the other set!


i repeat - there was a printing error with my book, but thanks anyways
KOH
i got iT..... PIECE OF CAKE!

lg x + lg y = lg 3

1000 = 10^3
1000 does not equal lg3

MB
Reply 37
musicboy
1000 = 10^3
1000 does not equal lg3

MB

nah its a misprint. doing it with 1000 doesnt work
lgs98jonee
2cosxcos50-2sinxsin50=sinxcos40+cosxsin40
2cos50-2tanxsin50=tanxcos40+sin40
so 2cos50-sin40=tanx(cos40+2sin50)
so tan x= (2cos50-sin40)/(cos40+2sin50)
so x= tan-1 of all that


hot did u get from tan x= (2cos50-sin40)/(cos40+2sin50)
to x= tan-1 of all that and is it tanx in the end?
lexazver203
hot did u get from tan x= (2cos50-sin40)/(cos40+2sin50)
to x= tan-1 of all that and is it tanx in the end?

if u do tan-1 of both sides then tan-1(tanx)=x

and x=tan-1(blah)

try tan-1(tan60) or any number and u will get 60 back

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