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Aleister Crowley = Voldemort
Hi, I've just been reading on Wikipedia about Aleister Crowley, one of the most evil people of all time (I read about loads of stuff when I get bored), and on seeing the ictures etc... have decided that he was quite similar to Voldemort in the HP books. If you look at the pictures on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowley%2C_Aleister">article</a>, you can see that he was rather attractive as a young man, but as he got older, became bald and ugly, and had a distinctive 'Voldemortish' look about him. I am of the opinion that this is part of the inspiration for the character. Does anyone here agree with me?
I didn't mean that he was exactly the same, in looks or anything else, just that he was kind of similar. Similarly, when I was referring to Crowley having a 'Voldemortish' look about him, I was particularly referring to him looking particularly evil, which reminds me of the Voldemort character. What I was mainly asking about in my post was whether or not anyone else thought that Crowley mighthave been part of Rowling's inspiration for Voldemort's character.
Oddly enough, i thought this myself the other day. Crowley has been used numerous times as the inspiration for various villains in literature and film, so it wouldn't be surprising. There is also the similarity of the name change. Crowley did not like his mother, and so changed his name from Alick as that is what she used to call him. And so Aleister was the name that became associated with 'evil' in the tabloids, similar to how Voldemort's name became associated with evil after he changed from being Tom Riddle.
For a minute there I thought that this topic was referring to Crowley from Good Omens (Until I realised that his name is actually Anthony!) 
I don't see why Crowley is seeing as being so evil, there's only 1 death associated with him - one of his followers who practically died of food poisoning. It's not as though he went round killing people or anything. But then, I'm not a Christian so I suppose occultism doesn't seem quite so innately evil to me as it might
Rubbesh. For one thing, Crowley was all about the sex, whereas Voldemort cares for only power and seems pretty sexless.
Crowley was a LEGEND. I once listened to a talk about him and the women doing the talk said fondly of an incident in an alley, "Of course, Crowley being Crowley, managed to kill two people with one bullet". Lol. Some disagreement. (Not downright murder btw, I think it was self-defence or something).
I don't really get what this thread's about - how are they similar???
Did Voldemort also hang out with W.B. Yeats and such groovy people (Yeats was also a member of the Golden Dawn)?
Crowley was a LEGEND. I once listened to a talk about him and the women doing the talk said fondly of an incident in an alley, "Of course, Crowley being Crowley, managed to kill two people with one bullet". Lol. Some disagreement. (Not downright murder btw, I think it was self-defence or something).
I don't really get what this thread's about - how are they similar???
Did Voldemort also hang out with W.B. Yeats and such groovy people (Yeats was also a member of the Golden Dawn)?
Zoecb
Crowley was a LEGEND. I once listened to a talk about him and the women doing the talk said fondly of an incident in an alley, "Of course, Crowley being Crowley, managed to kill two people with one bullet". Lol. Some disagreement. (Not downright murder btw, I think it was self-defence or something).
I can't find any sort of reference to him shooting anyone, although maybe if these women knew him and it wasn't publicised or anything (he was never arrested for it anyway)
He was just some rich kid descending into decadence, not really evil in the same way Voldemort is meant to be
He is supposed to have been the most evil man to have ever lived. He persued magick in a way that should never be done; using items from the Greater Key of Solomon (the most prominant of the Grimoires). These include making talismans and wands for the summoning of demons. He was a member of an Hermetic order, meaning that he was interested in the similar things to Voldemort.
A lot of the time when it is mentioned about his sexual habits, it is generally agreed that he did it (with both males and females) as part of some magickal ritual.
Also, my grandmother knew him in some passive way (I think he lived a couple of doors away), and she has told me that he was a pathetic man, very childish, and that he was a Satanist by any other name.
Crowley was not just a rich kid, wasn't a legend, wasn't anything good. He was a VERY dodgy person.
A lot of the time when it is mentioned about his sexual habits, it is generally agreed that he did it (with both males and females) as part of some magickal ritual.
Also, my grandmother knew him in some passive way (I think he lived a couple of doors away), and she has told me that he was a pathetic man, very childish, and that he was a Satanist by any other name.
Crowley was not just a rich kid, wasn't a legend, wasn't anything good. He was a VERY dodgy person.
Tootles
He is supposed to have been the most evil man to have ever lived. He persued magick in a way that should never be done; using items from the Greater Key of Solomon (the most prominant of the Grimoires). These include making talismans and wands for the summoning of demons. He was a member of an Hermetic order, meaning that he was interested in the similar things to Voldemort.
A lot of the time when it is mentioned about his sexual habits, it is generally agreed that he did it (with both males and females) as part of some magickal ritual.
Also, my grandmother knew him in some passive way (I think he lived a couple of doors away), and she has told me that he was a pathetic man, very childish, and that he was a Satanist by any other name.
Crowley was not just a rich kid, wasn't a legend, wasn't anything good. He was a VERY dodgy person.
A lot of the time when it is mentioned about his sexual habits, it is generally agreed that he did it (with both males and females) as part of some magickal ritual.
Also, my grandmother knew him in some passive way (I think he lived a couple of doors away), and she has told me that he was a pathetic man, very childish, and that he was a Satanist by any other name.
Crowley was not just a rich kid, wasn't a legend, wasn't anything good. He was a VERY dodgy person.
He is nowhere near the most evil man in history, compare him with someone like Charles Manson - who could at least lay some claim to this as he actually did some evil things
Being a Satanist isn't necessarily evil and magic doesn't actually exist so its not as though pursuing the dark arts is a particularly big deal...
He was a rich, intelligent kid who mucked about in the occult and with sexuality and stuff - seems like a fairly typical bored young man who, because of his wealth, didn't ever really have to grow out of it
He was also considered for use by Mi5 to help with the war effort - remember Hitler? A person who could actually be reasonably claimed to have evil in him, more so than Crowley anyway - so seems to have had some sense of morality (kinda self-preservation I guess, although most people at the time would've thought germany would win I suppose)
I don't really know enough about him to make much of an argument but I can't see any reason to consider him evil (or a LEGEND) for that matter.
Him being the most evil man ever is pretty much a conjuration of the tabloids at the time. This is probably due to his phrase Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be the Whole of the Law... this, coupled withn his sexual habits and shaven head led the tabloids to have a field day. There is no evidence that he actually killed anyone or used them for sacrifice.
Crowley was not a Satanist. To him gods took the form of an essence or spirit which is the whole basis of his magick. They were forces that could be used, which could lead to greater spiritual discoveries. He didn't 'worship' satan or any other demonic deities.
Crowley was not a Satanist. To him gods took the form of an essence or spirit which is the whole basis of his magick. They were forces that could be used, which could lead to greater spiritual discoveries. He didn't 'worship' satan or any other demonic deities.
Mephistophilis
Crowley was not a Satanist. To him gods took the form of an essence or spirit which is the whole basis of his magick.
That sounds pretty similar to most modern connotations of satanism, i.e. Lavey's Church of Satan and general paganism (but yer not actually worshipping Satan - I should've made that clearer)
Although I don't think that simply worshipping the devil himself would make you especially evil either
Tootles
A lot of the time when it is mentioned about his sexual habits, it is generally agreed that he did it (with both males and females) as part of some magickal ritual.
...and that he was a Satanist by any other name.
Crowley was not just a rich kid, wasn't a legend, wasn't anything good. He was a VERY dodgy person.
Highly dodgy and highly legendary (I'm using legendary in the sort of teenage slangy 'awesome!' kinda way, btw).
MC REN
That sounds pretty similar to most modern connotations of satanism, i.e. Lavey's Church of Satan and general paganism (but yer not actually worshipping Satan - I should've made that clearer)
Well of course because LaVey was heavily inspired by Crowley (even his hairstyle, or lack of it). LaVey however focuses on dark spirits whereas Crowley focused on deities derived from ancient Egypt. He was a Thelemite, but not a satanist.
This website deleted my last post for violating guidelines aka being too honest. Since we're apparently not old enough to have mature conversations on our own, I guess I'll whitewash the bejesus out of this post. Voldemort is Crowley. How so? Compare HORcrux magic to yougufian sex magic. The Deathly Hallows is the all seeing eye or the rule and compass. Rowling is a freemason as was crowley. Freemasonry and its contemporary secret religions observe the satanic pronounciations of that debased pedophile and child sacrificer Alexander Edward Crowley. He was deported from several countries, once by the spiritless and egomaniacal mass muderer Mussolini. Do you feel the gravity of that? Deported. By. Mussolini. Because a follower of his died during a ritual in italy.
I expect no one who has been programmed by freemasonic luciferians to take what I type at face value. That is the essence of their strategies, attach an ego to something the soul has little to no familiarity with in hopes of trapping the soul in instantaneous incarnation by dismantling the spirit through corruption aka divine alchemy. Do some research and set your egos free.
I expect no one who has been programmed by freemasonic luciferians to take what I type at face value. That is the essence of their strategies, attach an ego to something the soul has little to no familiarity with in hopes of trapping the soul in instantaneous incarnation by dismantling the spirit through corruption aka divine alchemy. Do some research and set your egos free.
Original post by TeacherofMasters
This website deleted my last post for violating guidelines aka being too honest. Since we're apparently not old enough to have mature conversations on our own, I guess I'll whitewash the bejesus out of this post. Voldemort is Crowley. How so? Compare HORcrux magic to yougufian sex magic. The Deathly Hallows is the all seeing eye or the rule and compass. Rowling is a freemason as was crowley. Freemasonry and its contemporary secret religions observe the satanic pronounciations of that debased pedophile and child sacrificer Alexander Edward Crowley. He was deported from several countries, once by the spiritless and egomaniacal mass muderer Mussolini. Do you feel the gravity of that? Deported. By. Mussolini. Because a follower of his died during a ritual in italy.
I expect no one who has been programmed by freemasonic luciferians to take what I type at face value. That is the essence of their strategies, attach an ego to something the soul has little to no familiarity with in hopes of trapping the soul in instantaneous incarnation by dismantling the spirit through corruption aka divine alchemy. Do some research and set your egos free.
I expect no one who has been programmed by freemasonic luciferians to take what I type at face value. That is the essence of their strategies, attach an ego to something the soul has little to no familiarity with in hopes of trapping the soul in instantaneous incarnation by dismantling the spirit through corruption aka divine alchemy. Do some research and set your egos free.
Rowling is not a Mason. She has openly said that she thinks the sign of the Deathly Hallows might be subconsciously inspired by the Eye as she saw it in a film, many years ago. I can confirm that this happens, as I'm now a writer myself.
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