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kendgr8
I'm worrying what value UoL degrees will have by the time I get one. Or should I not worry? Sorry if this has been asked before.


The fact that it is UOL is irrelevant.
The important issue is the quality of the constituent college.
Obviously, ICL and KCL, UCL, Durham, Nottingham, Warwick >>> Royal Holloway.
Reply 2
acolyte

Obviously, ICL and KCL, UCL, Durham, Nottingham, Warwick >>> Royal Holloway.


What? :confused:
he means icl, kcl, ucl et al are greater than RH.
Reply 4
unknown demon
he means icl, kcl, ucl et al are greater than RH.


Yeah i get that...what i don't get is why that's relevant to the OP's question when he/she has asked specifically about UoL and Royal Holloway in particular.
Reply 5
Yeah, Imperial have started giving out their own degrees, and I've heard that LSE has started giving the option of either putting LSE on your degree thingy or UoL but i know after one point the LSE one will be compulsory
LSE, UCL AND KINGS will all award there own degrees from 2008 according to the THES report.
Reply 7
What exactly is the difference between a university of london degree and, say, a KCL or UCL degree?
:confused:
the UoL degree states you went to the uni of london and your degree is from there. The latter is from the respective constituent college. Many argue, certain collleges do not need the UoL banner on there degree, and that there college has a greater rep than the UoL as an entity itself. Many have also argued they do not want their degree to be associated with lesser member colleges of the UoL. Imperial left the UoL as they felt it did not add much value to itself as an institution.
Reply 9
unknown demon
the UoL degree states you went to the uni of london and your degree is from there. The latter is from the respective constituent college. Many argue, certain collleges do not need the UoL banner on there degree, and that there college has a greater rep than the UoL as an entity itself. Many have also argued they do not want their degree to be associated with lesser member colleges of the UoL. Imperial left the UoL as they felt it did not add much value to itself as an institution.

So when you get your certificate or whatever it is at the end of your degree, it just says that your degree is from the UoL - it doesn't state the actual uni you attended? (I'm referring to the other universities, apart from LSE, UCL and KCL)
Lolly-88
Yeah i get that...what i don't get is why that's relevant to the OP's question when he/she has asked specifically about UoL and Royal Holloway in particular.


The obvious point is that being UOL means nothing.
Nottingham is not UOL but is far better than Birbeck, RHUL or Goldsmiths, all of which are UOL.
Reply 11
acolyte
The obvious point is that being UOL means nothing.
Nottingham is not UOL but is far better than Birbeck, RHUL or Goldsmiths, all of which are UOL.


Oh ok i get it...i never knew birbeck was part of the UoL.

wesetters
Exactly.


What are you sure? :eek: Someone told me in the UCL thread that all degrees from the UoL mention what university you got the degree from...surely they wouldn't just have UoL on it, that's not fair.
Reply 12
The UoL really isn't greater than the sum of its parts so for the "better" college its adds little but for the other colleges it is advantage to be associated with ICL UCL LSE
Reply 13
Royal Holloway has a strong reputation in it's own right doesn't it? I mean i know it's quite reputable for english and psychology...amongst others i'm sure. I don't think it necessarily needs to be associated with the other 'top' UoL uni's.
Lolly! Didn't you know? UoL degrees say UoL on them. I know there are upcoming changes to some of the colleges, but at present even UCL graduates have a UoL degree. If you read the website/prospectus you'll actually see it saying something like - this course leads to the award of a UoL "subject" degree.
Reply 15
I hear it says UoL but it does also say the college... imagine if QMUL & ICL grads were being handed the same degrees...!
Reply 16
Philosoraptor
Lolly! Didn't you know? UoL degrees say UoL on them. I know there are upcoming changes to some of the colleges, but at present even UCL graduates have a UoL degree. If you read the website/prospectus you'll actually see it saying something like - this course leads to the award of a UoL "subject" degree.


Yeah it say's UoL but it also has what college you went to aswell...doesn't it?
e.g.
University of London
University College London
Bsc chemistry

Right? It doesn't just say UoL?...That's seriously unfair if it does please tell me i'm right or if not then please tell me that by the time i graduate (if i get into UCL) it will say UCL on my degree and not just UoL.
Reply 17
What exactly is the difference between a university of london degree and, say, a KCL or UCL degree?


I'm looking at my dad's BSC and PHD from KCL and it says he received it from the UoL AND it says he attended King's college (Written very clearly on the centre of his degree as well and not hidden any where)

TBH as long as it makes it clear I got my degree from UCL etc I don't really care if someone from RHUL or QMUL use UoL degrees.
Lolly-88
Someone told me in the UCL thread that all degrees from the UoL mention what university you got the degree from...surely they wouldn't just have UoL on it, that's not fair.


Because of this problem ( and the relatively poor reputation of UOL), LSE and ICL students have the option of getting a LSE or ICL degree certificate or a UOL certificate.

Obviously, all the students are choosing a LSE / ICL certificate, rather than an anonymous UOL one.
Reply 19
and the relatively poor reputation of UOL


Wouldn't a UoL degree be famous because its been awarded for the last like 150+ years and all famous UoL graduates hold this degree?