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parametric equations: showing tangent to curve is.....

hi, doing a questiong on parametric equations. i'll tell you what i have done so far.

x=3cos(theta) y=2sin(theta) for 0</= (theta) <2pi

i) i had to eliminate theta to form cartesian equations. i got x^2/9 + y^2/4 = 1

ii) had to draw the curve. it is an elipse which cuts through y= 2 and -2 and x= 3 and -3. i had to drew tangents through point (6,2).



iii) i had to use parametric equations to calculate dy/dx in terms of theta.

- 2cos (theta) / 3sin (theta)

this is where im stuck, although i said that yesterday and seemed to know where i went wrong afterwards.

so now i'm given that the equation of the tangent to the curve (3cos (theta), 2sin (theta)) is 2x cos (theta) + 3y sin (theta) = 6

i have to show that for the tangents to the curve which passes through (6,2),2cos (theta) + sin (theta) =1

i have another part to do afterwards but i'll have a go at it before i ask again.
Reply 1
apply x=6 and y=2 to 2xcos theta + 3ysintheta=6
which gives 12costheta + 6sintheta=6
=> 2costheta + sintheta=1
Reply 2
oh thats what i did....but i didnt cancel it down =[ thanx:smile:
Reply 3
kk iv done one part to this but not getting the right answer for the other part., it says, solve equation 2cos (theta) + sin (theta)=1 to find two values of theta in radians to 2 dp, corresponding to the two tangents.

2cos(theta) + sin (theta) =1

2cos (theta) =0

sin (theta)=1
theta=pi (1.57)

this is right but the next one im doing is wrong, by 0.4

sin (theta)=0

2cos(theta)=1
cos (theta)=1/2
(theta)=1.047197551

using "all-silly-tom-cats"

as it was cos, i did 2pi-1.04719551 and got 5.243185307, this case 5.24, but the answer is meant to be 5.64, am i wrong or is it the book?
Reply 4
2cos(theta) + sin (theta) =1

2cos (theta) =0

sin (theta)=1
theta=pi (1.57)


That was fortunate. You could do that by sight straight away (and by looking at your sketch), but your method here is wrong.

sin (theta)=0

2cos(theta)=1
cos (theta)=1/2
(theta)=1.047197551


The two bold lines imply different values of theta. Try putting 1.047197551 into the equation to see if you get 1.

Do you know how to convert something like '2cos(theta) + sin (theta)' into Rcos(theta+alpha), where R and alpha are constants?
Reply 5
yep. and wen i put 1.047197551, into 2cos theta i get 2, so theta must be half the value, right?
Reply 6
jones001
yep. and wen i put 1.047197551, into 2cos theta i get 2, so theta must be half the value, right?


I get 1 :s-smilie: Not sure what you mean by half the value

2cos(theta) + sin (theta) =1

Rcos(θ+α)=RcosθcosαRsinθsinα=2cosθ+sinθ=1Rcos(\theta+\alpha)=Rcos{\theta}cos{\alpha}-Rsin{\theta}sin{\alpha}= 2cos{\theta} + sin {\theta}=1

So Rcosα=2Rsinα=1Rcos{\alpha}=2\\Rsin{\alpha}=1

Can you get R and alpha from that?
Reply 7
are you in degrees mode or radians? i've been doing everything in radians
Reply 8
i did that, i got root5 cos ( (theta)- 0.463647609)
Reply 9
Radians is good

root5 cos ( (theta)- 0.463647609)=1


Cool, now solve it :biggrin:
Reply 10
got the answer :smile: thanks...took time but we got there at the end