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Original post by Nephthys
Notice how building 7 was never hit by a plane


No, but it was hit by another building.

Edit: Oh wait. I forgot that your understanding of building 7 comes from pro-conspiracy propaganda that uses very carefully selected photographs that do not show the massive damage to the building.
Original post by Nephthys
Notice how building 7 was never hit by a plane


No, it was hit by debris.
Original post by DiddyDec
No, it was hit by debris.


Original post by Farm_Ecology
No, but it was hit by another building.


Original post by MatureStudent36
No. But it did have significant damage from fire, debris falling on it and a whole host of other reasons.


Notice that the official report of the U.S. government doesn't even mention the debris hitting B7 as a cause of collapse, but merely of starting the fires.
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Original post by Nephthys
Notice that the official report of the U.S. government doesn't even mention the debris hitting B7 as a cause of collapse.


Because it wasn't the cause of the collapse, it was a factor that led to the collapse.
Original post by DiddyDec
Because it wasn't the cause of the collapse, it was a factor that led to the collapse.


Well then, so why is the NIST model so flawed ?

http://rememberbuilding7.org/nist-collapse-model/
Original post by Nephthys
Notice that the official report of the U.S. government doesn't even mention the debris hitting B7 as a cause of collapse, but merely of starting the fires.


And yet you've failed to provide any link to any such report.
Original post by Nephthys
Well then, so why is the NIST model so flawed ?

http://rememberbuilding7.org/nist-collapse-model/


I'm not going to pretend to understand the NIST model because my knowledge of architecture and structural modelling of the 1980s is severely limited. In fact I am not a structural engineer who specialises in building collapses and modelling them from rubble and grainy video footage, are you?
Original post by DiddyDec
are you?


no, but I have eyes .. I can see if two things are the same or not
Original post by Nephthys
no, but I have eyes


So with no understanding of the situation you automatically assume you are better equipped at understanding it? Are you a solicitor?
Original post by Nephthys
Well then, so why is the NIST model so flawed ?

http://rememberbuilding7.org/nist-collapse-model/


It doesn't help that you're link is a conspiracy theory website.
Original post by DiddyDec
So with no understanding of the situation you automatically assume you are better equipped at understanding it? Are you a solicitor?


I have understanding, I know the NIST model, how the collapse was supposed to happen given fire, I have the recording of the actual collapse, I can compare the two and see if the model is actually modelling reality.. Is it so hard to understand ?
Original post by Nephthys
I have understanding, I know the NIST model, how the collapse was supposed to happen given fire, I have the recording of the actual collapse, I can compare the two and see if the model is actually modelling reality.. Is it so hard to understand ?


What are your qualifications in the this subject?
Original post by MatureStudent36
And yet you've failed to provide any link to any such report.


You can google it

Original post by DiddyDec
What are your qualifications in the this subject?



How is that relevant ?
Original post by Nephthys
How is that relevant ?


Because you have no idea about the model or how it was put together using what evidence.

Do you know anything about building design of the 1980s?
Original post by Nephthys
You can google it




How is that relevant ?


I'll letbiou quote the source and do the leg work. You're the one misquoting official reports in order to back up a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
Original post by DiddyDec
Because you have no idea about the model or how it was put together using what evidence.


To be fair, you should say that NIST refused to release that information

http://cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf
Original post by Nephthys
To be fair, you should say that NIST refused to release that information

http://cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf


But if you had knowledge of the subject you would be able to make an educated guess. Would you even know where to start?
Well, one things for certain: it can't be owned by Larry Silverstein or it would've collapsed at freefall speed into a pile of dust, and BBC, FOX NEWS and SKY would've reported fallen before it actually fell. :rofl:
Original post by DiddyDec
But if you had knowledge of the subject you would be able to make an educated guess. Would you even know where to start?


You fail to understand I'm not supposed to recreate or understand how the model was completed, I'm just comparing their computed result to reality..
Is it bad that I wish the entire city had burnt down? :smile:

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