What is your opinion on veganism?
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Original post by Canucked
And? I don't see a problem with that.
That's your opinion and that's okay, as long as you aren't shaming those who prefer not to eat meat
Original post by ron_trns
No offense but just to let people know, the vegans/vegetarians who have been so for decades are generally the type of people who don't go shoving it down peoples throats. I've come to realize that after a certain length of time being a vegan/veg you just come to peaceful acceptance of the way things are and try to change things little by little in a good way.
A lot of the people who have just started doing this usually are trying to validate themselves/their believes. Especially as it may be hard for them, so they want to feel some benefit because they don't feel acknowledged. These are also the people who usually last the least amount of time because are often struggling a lot.
A lot of the people who have just started doing this usually are trying to validate themselves/their believes. Especially as it may be hard for them, so they want to feel some benefit because they don't feel acknowledged. These are also the people who usually last the least amount of time because are often struggling a lot.
This is so true, I feel like not eating meat now has kind of become trendy or 'tumblr'. Even though it's great that they're choosing to not eat it, in my opinion, the reasons for doing it aren't that great.
Original post by Canucked
And? I don't see a problem with that.
Original post by raaachek
You seem to be of the impression that people have to agree with you, and if they don't then you show your disapproval, people are allowed an opinion
Original post by sw651
You seem to be of the impression that people have to agree with you, and if they don't then you show your disapproval, people are allowed an opinion
And we are allowed to have opinions on your opinions, which may be disapproving.
Original post by TheHopefulMedic
I find it odd how they care about saving the animals but not the humans that are working god knows how many hours in horrendous situations whilst getting paid a despicable wage
Yeah, how dare people be compassionately concerned about the wellbeing of more than one group of organisms at a time. What gall.
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Original post by Canucked
And? I don't see a problem with that.
What separates a non-human animal from a human that makes the former okay to eat but the latter not, in your eyes?
Original post by sw651
You seem to be of the impression that people have to agree with you, and if they don't then you show your disapproval, people are allowed an opinion
Nopp! None of my friends or family agree with me on this - every single one of them eats meat - and I overlook our differing lifestyles in most situations.
You never replied to my reply to you the other day
EDIT: Oh except my dad. He's an ovo-vegetarian. How could I forget him! :P
EDIT: I know people are allowed an opinion and I celebrate our freedom of choice. The difference here is that meat eaters' opinions and choices have victims. There's a difference between victimless choices and... these choices.
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Original post by raaachek
Nopp! None of my friends or family agree with me on this - every single one of them eats meat - and I overlook our differing lifestyles in most situations.
You never replied to my reply to you the other day
EDIT: Oh except my dad. He's an ovo-vegetarian. How could I forget him! :P
EDIT: I know people are allowed an opinion and I celebrate our freedom of choice. The difference here is that meat eaters' opinions and choices have victims. There's a difference between victimless choices and... these choices.
You never replied to my reply to you the other day
EDIT: Oh except my dad. He's an ovo-vegetarian. How could I forget him! :P
EDIT: I know people are allowed an opinion and I celebrate our freedom of choice. The difference here is that meat eaters' opinions and choices have victims. There's a difference between victimless choices and... these choices.
What's an ovo-vegatarian?
What was the quote, I'm on TSR mobile so I'm not getting notifications
The view of animals as victims is open to interpretation. So ultimately, depending on your view, there is no 'victimless choice', its just two different choices
Original post by sw651
What's an ovo-vegatarian?
What was the quote, I'm on TSR mobile so I'm not getting notifications
The view of animals as victims is open to interpretation. So ultimately, depending on your view, there is no 'victimless choice', its just two different choices
What was the quote, I'm on TSR mobile so I'm not getting notifications
The view of animals as victims is open to interpretation. So ultimately, depending on your view, there is no 'victimless choice', its just two different choices
Maybe I've used a misnomer but I think it means a vegetarian who eats eggs.
Erm... my computer is a potato and going all the way back in this thread would probably bring it to extinction. Never mind
Well I strongly disagree with that but in any case, critiquing someone's opinion isn't the same as disrespecting it. I haven't disrespected anyone's opinion in this thread, just offered counterpoints.
Original post by raaachek
Guys, please watch 'Cowspiracy' on YouTube or Netflix. It's incredibly relevant to this thread.
It was proven they used false statistics and no real evidence. Irrelevant.
Original post by sw651
It was proven they used false statistics and no real evidence. Irrelevant.
Do you have a source? From looking it up before everywhere seemed to agree that it was 100% factual
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Original post by sw651
It was proven they used false statistics and no real evidence. Irrelevant.
Oh really?! This was proven? Can you link me to the source please?
Original post by eternaforest
Do you have a source? From looking it up before everywhere seemed to agree that it was 100% factual
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Original post by raaachek
Oh really?! This was proven? Can you link me to the source please?
http://www.examiner.com/article/la-chefs-movie-review-cowspiracy-a-pile-of-imitation-vegan-bs
Edit: Furthermore, this documentary came out in 2013, yet the used figures from 2006, 7 years prior to the movie. This as it stands make it highly misleading.
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Meat is so good, I couldn't possibly go without it
Original post by sw651
http://www.examiner.com/article/la-chefs-movie-review-cowspiracy-a-pile-of-imitation-vegan-bs
Edit: Furthermore, this documentary came out in 2013, yet the used figures from 2006, 7 years prior to the movie. This as it stands make it highly misleading.
Edit: Furthermore, this documentary came out in 2013, yet the used figures from 2006, 7 years prior to the movie. This as it stands make it highly misleading.
I've read a few paragraphs so far. I'll read the rest when I've had my morning cuppa. I will say now that this time, I hope you're right... because that documentary scared the living crabapski out of me. If you're wrong... goodness help us all...
Original post by raaachek
I've read a few paragraphs so far. I'll read the rest when I've had my morning cuppa. I will say now that this time, I hope you're right... because that documentary scared the living crabapski out of me. If you're wrong... goodness help us all...
Parts of it are factually correct, and parts of it are completely made up. The problem lies in the fact they skewed the figures to make it seem worse
Original post by sw651
The view of animals as victims is open to interpretation. So ultimately, depending on your view, there is no 'victimless choice', its just two different choices
The view of animals as victims is open to interpretation. So ultimately, depending on your view, there is no 'victimless choice', its just two different choices
I realize that, well, seemingly the majority of the population doesn't view animals as victims. Now, how can that be? How can a human being, designed with empathy and emotion, watch an animal suffer in front of them and not feel anything?
We've shown to possess a certain degree of empathy regarding the political stance on the unlawful killing of another human being, *ahem*, murder...
It is important to recognise the definitions. For example, one definition I found described murder as "The killing of another person without justification or excuse". One could therefore argue that we have an excuse to kill animals. They're tasty, right? However, doesn't that just correspond with a murderer saying, "but it's fun, right?"...
The other argument is that animals are morally inferior to humans. We, the superficial race, tend to believe we have more of a right to life than any other animal. Murder only applies to humans, right? So animals are out of that equation all together. I mean, it's not like we've changed the laws over the years or anything like that. Oh no, that would be absurd *cough* slavery *cough*.
Scientifically, animals show sentience. All aspects of consciousness show sentience. They feel pain, they suffer, they cry. At that angle, are they really so different from us? Well, yes... The law says so.
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