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I hate Doctors
I have a phobia or anything.
But what ever Ive been I feel like I get completely fobbed off.
I don't go often for that reason, my most recent trip was Friday.
I went about my weightloss/concerns etc
after a slow long journey I lost like 47lbs, Im a size 10, on a extremely short person it doesn't look that small.
but I still have large legs, stomach and slightly big arms.
but cheeks are looking quite gaunt tho.
I did ask him to refer me to say a nutritionist as if I eat more than a weightloss amount or energy I gain weight. But keeping to a restrictive diet I am concerned that I am negatively affecting my body, for example losing muscle mass and affecting my organs.
the doctor told me to keep to what Im doing now and everything will be fine as I look 'alight', I then explained me 'losing muscle mass' concern and he said you don't lose muscle mass, only fat.
Ive also had a Doctor tell me she doesn't 'believe in calories' and to get a workout dvd.
on this occasion that doctor did say he could refer me, but because of my 'normal' bmi, they would only see me under a 'eating disorder' type thing would need to be assessed by a shrink first.
At that point was was annoyed, as when I was classed as obese and wanted help in that way I had another doctor tell me she cant prescibe a magic pill, and that I should hit the gym, and didnt see the point of looking at my diet.
*sigh
sorry, needed to air
But what ever Ive been I feel like I get completely fobbed off.
I don't go often for that reason, my most recent trip was Friday.
I went about my weightloss/concerns etc
after a slow long journey I lost like 47lbs, Im a size 10, on a extremely short person it doesn't look that small.
but I still have large legs, stomach and slightly big arms.
but cheeks are looking quite gaunt tho.
I did ask him to refer me to say a nutritionist as if I eat more than a weightloss amount or energy I gain weight. But keeping to a restrictive diet I am concerned that I am negatively affecting my body, for example losing muscle mass and affecting my organs.
the doctor told me to keep to what Im doing now and everything will be fine as I look 'alight', I then explained me 'losing muscle mass' concern and he said you don't lose muscle mass, only fat.
Ive also had a Doctor tell me she doesn't 'believe in calories' and to get a workout dvd.
on this occasion that doctor did say he could refer me, but because of my 'normal' bmi, they would only see me under a 'eating disorder' type thing would need to be assessed by a shrink first.
At that point was was annoyed, as when I was classed as obese and wanted help in that way I had another doctor tell me she cant prescibe a magic pill, and that I should hit the gym, and didnt see the point of looking at my diet.
*sigh
sorry, needed to air
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I know what you mean, ive been to doctors about things before and felt really dissappointed after ive left.
I can understand what they are on about aswell though, the best thing to do about losing weight is just to eat a normal diet and then exercise regularly. Going on a restrictive diet and reducing calories is a quicker way of doing it, but the moment you start eating normally people usually pile the weight back on.
In a way restrictive diets are unhealthy as they usually make you cut out a certain type of food completely. Like the atkins diet and all those 'Fad-diets'
Is it your GP you saw or a specialist?
I can understand what they are on about aswell though, the best thing to do about losing weight is just to eat a normal diet and then exercise regularly. Going on a restrictive diet and reducing calories is a quicker way of doing it, but the moment you start eating normally people usually pile the weight back on.
In a way restrictive diets are unhealthy as they usually make you cut out a certain type of food completely. Like the atkins diet and all those 'Fad-diets'
Is it your GP you saw or a specialist?
Your experiences are shared by many people, including myself. Getting taken seriously at all, whatever the problem, is really hard - and getting help for it is impossible.
NHS = No Help Supplied
Some pretty serious problems I've eventually gone to the Dr with, and as expected they just tell me to **** off. TBH unless you have an accute "injury" kind of thing, or are blatantly ill (with lots of visable signs) then don't bother going. Learn about things yourself, talk online on good health-related forums (not this one), and decide how to treat yourself.
Another reason to go to the Dr is if you want a specific drug prescribed. In which case, go with that in mind. You'll have to not be direct about it, though - make it seem like it was their idea.
Referal to specialists maybe can be better than GPs, but in my experience, probably not. They're just GP's that know less about everything outside of their speciality.
For your own problem, NHS/GP is the worst place to get info. There's plenty of good info about acheiving your fitness and weight-loss goals online. Again, not on this forum, really.
Good luck
NHS = No Help Supplied
Some pretty serious problems I've eventually gone to the Dr with, and as expected they just tell me to **** off. TBH unless you have an accute "injury" kind of thing, or are blatantly ill (with lots of visable signs) then don't bother going. Learn about things yourself, talk online on good health-related forums (not this one), and decide how to treat yourself.
Another reason to go to the Dr is if you want a specific drug prescribed. In which case, go with that in mind. You'll have to not be direct about it, though - make it seem like it was their idea.
Referal to specialists maybe can be better than GPs, but in my experience, probably not. They're just GP's that know less about everything outside of their speciality.
For your own problem, NHS/GP is the worst place to get info. There's plenty of good info about acheiving your fitness and weight-loss goals online. Again, not on this forum, really.
Good luck
I don't like pervert male doctors who try and feel you up!
blackswan
I don't like pervert male doctors who try and feel you up!
Right, cos doctors just wanna feel you up dont they.
Dont go to a doctor, dont get treatment and just sort out ur problems urselves then.
What a silly thread. Doctors probs hate ur moaning too.
LipGloss
It's like, their job. 
They're not trying to "feel you up," they're trying to find out what's wrong. You can ask for a female doctor if you're uncomfortable with a male.
They're not trying to "feel you up," they're trying to find out what's wrong. You can ask for a female doctor if you're uncomfortable with a male.Exactly.
LipGloss
It's like, their job. They're not trying to "feel you up," they're trying to find out what's wrong. You can ask for a female doctor if you're uncomfortable with a male.
They're not trying to "feel you up," they're trying to find out what's wrong. You can ask for a female doctor if you're uncomfortable with a male.Bah don't knock my post it's serious. Since when is it "just a doctors job" to when you say you have an ingrown toenail and he tells you to take your clothes off? Or when he is feeling your glands (throat ones) he pushing himself against you? And feels your breasts when he using that stethicope?I'm not joking he did this with my mum, me and like half of the (country) town.
blackswan
Bah don't knock my post it's serious. Since when is it "just a doctors job" to when you say you have an ingrown toenail and he tells you to take your clothes off? Or when he is feeling your glands (throat ones) he pushing himself against you? And feels your breasts when he using that stethicope?I'm not joking he did this with my mum, me and like half of the (country) town.
Originally Posted by LipGloss
It's like, their job. They're not trying to "feel you up," they're trying to find out what's wrong. You can ask for a female doctor if you're uncomfortable with a male.
It's like, their job. They're not trying to "feel you up," they're trying to find out what's wrong. You can ask for a female doctor if you're uncomfortable with a male.
Several years ago there was a doctor in the South that was fired for indecent practice, my mother was one of the women who stepped forward. It's very rare, but you do get the oddball crop up in every profession.
If you feel uncomfortable with a doctor ask to speak to an on site nurse or the receptionists to see if they've had anyone else comment.
The annoying thing about visiting doctors is they often seem quite arrogant or unwilling to explain things to you, either because they don'e feel it is important or that you couldn't understand, I am not sure.
As for referral to a specialist, I can contest it is difficult for any department, government targets set on the NHS and overburdoning criteria to be fulfilled often mean a lot of time and energy has to be spent to bend the rules and sort everything out, sometimes there's nothing they can do to get you seen quickly if at all.
Are you assigned to a specific doctor or a surgery? Sometimes it's helpful getting different perspectives, but also if you find a doctor who will listen to you and is 'used' to you can ask for when they are next in.
Yeah if you have a problem with a doctor then report them to your local NHS trust rather than doing nothing about and then bashing everyone in the profession over it 10 years later.
But frankly I think in this day ad age people tend to over-react with everything and make mountains out of moleholes.
Most of the time those accusing others of indecency usually have an indecent mind themselves.
But frankly I think in this day ad age people tend to over-react with everything and make mountains out of moleholes.
Most of the time those accusing others of indecency usually have an indecent mind themselves.
8people
The annoying thing about visiting doctors is they often seem quite arrogant or unwilling to explain things to you, either because they don'e feel it is important or that you couldn't understand, I am not sure.
The annoying thing about visiting doctors is they often seem quite arrogant or unwilling to explain things to you, either because they don'e feel it is important or that you couldn't understand, I am not sure.
It's obviously a problem is patients don't feel they've had things explained properly.
But another explanation - your GP has on average 7 minutes per consultation allocated... When they start running behind they then have patients coming in complaining about being late - hence taking up even more time to 'address their frustration' before getting on with it!
There are many many many good doctors out there, it's just the matter of finding one that 'click' with you. If you are not happy with your current one, you can always change another one without giving a reason, like what it says at the back of the NHS card.
I find that somtimes when you are ill, especially if you have some emotional problems or mental health issues, you woudl tend to think quite negatively, therefore, you might not like whatever the doctor might say, bcoz you already have a negative mind.
I also find sometimes female doctors are more careful than male, maybe this is the nature of women?? I dunno... and of casue there are many careful male doctors too.
I am not totally happy with my doctor at the moment, this is why I didn't go back to her last week when I was supposed to, but I am not intending to change to another one. COz when I say I am not happy with her, it's only bcoz I was totally pissed off at myself (I have depression) when I went to her last time, so obviously whatever she said was totally rubbish for me... and I also found her being a bit too formative. She was kind of sticking to the paper and the computer typing too much. But she was also quite careful, and spent like half an hour with me listening me saying rubbish... which was good.
So after all, apart from finding her being a little weird and funny, I think she is a good doctor.
Sometime we have to understand they are often very busy, and they are just human beings like you and me, they have good days and bad days... Also, whatever illnesses you are having, they have probably seens billions cases already, so you cant really expect them to not work like a 'computer' sometimes.
I find that somtimes when you are ill, especially if you have some emotional problems or mental health issues, you woudl tend to think quite negatively, therefore, you might not like whatever the doctor might say, bcoz you already have a negative mind.
I also find sometimes female doctors are more careful than male, maybe this is the nature of women?? I dunno... and of casue there are many careful male doctors too.
I am not totally happy with my doctor at the moment, this is why I didn't go back to her last week when I was supposed to, but I am not intending to change to another one. COz when I say I am not happy with her, it's only bcoz I was totally pissed off at myself (I have depression) when I went to her last time, so obviously whatever she said was totally rubbish for me... and I also found her being a bit too formative. She was kind of sticking to the paper and the computer typing too much. But she was also quite careful, and spent like half an hour with me listening me saying rubbish... which was good.
So after all, apart from finding her being a little weird and funny, I think she is a good doctor.
Sometime we have to understand they are often very busy, and they are just human beings like you and me, they have good days and bad days... Also, whatever illnesses you are having, they have probably seens billions cases already, so you cant really expect them to not work like a 'computer' sometimes.
Anonymous
But another explanation - your GP has on average 7 minutes per consultation allocated... When they start running behind they then have patients coming in complaining about being late - hence taking up even more time to 'address their frustration' before getting on with it!
But another explanation - your GP has on average 7 minutes per consultation allocated... When they start running behind they then have patients coming in complaining about being late - hence taking up even more time to 'address their frustration' before getting on with it!
I hear you, my grandad is the sort of person that goes in and complains about waiting times then when you ask him what was actually wrong he can't remember what the doctor eventually said
It's a good thing I get along better with hospital staff! I've often had to have specialists write in to my GP to sort things out, I'm sure it's supposed the other way round
P for Photographer
There are many many many good doctors out there, it's just the matter of finding one that 'click' with you
Hear hear! It's always sad when they move away though, have to start all over again
rock_eleven
Your experiences are shared by many people, including myself. Getting taken seriously at all, whatever the problem, is really hard - and getting help for it is impossible.
NHS = No Help Supplied
Some pretty serious problems I've eventually gone to the Dr with, and as expected they just tell me to **** off. TBH unless you have an accute "injury" kind of thing, or are blatantly ill (with lots of visable signs) then don't bother going. Learn about things yourself, talk online on good health-related forums (not this one), and decide how to treat yourself.
Another reason to go to the Dr is if you want a specific drug prescribed. In which case, go with that in mind. You'll have to not be direct about it, though - make it seem like it was their idea.
Referal to specialists maybe can be better than GPs, but in my experience, probably not. They're just GP's that know less about everything outside of their speciality.
For your own problem, NHS/GP is the worst place to get info. There's plenty of good info about acheiving your fitness and weight-loss goals online. Again, not on this forum, really.
Good luck
NHS = No Help Supplied
Some pretty serious problems I've eventually gone to the Dr with, and as expected they just tell me to **** off. TBH unless you have an accute "injury" kind of thing, or are blatantly ill (with lots of visable signs) then don't bother going. Learn about things yourself, talk online on good health-related forums (not this one), and decide how to treat yourself.
Another reason to go to the Dr is if you want a specific drug prescribed. In which case, go with that in mind. You'll have to not be direct about it, though - make it seem like it was their idea.
Referal to specialists maybe can be better than GPs, but in my experience, probably not. They're just GP's that know less about everything outside of their speciality.
For your own problem, NHS/GP is the worst place to get info. There's plenty of good info about acheiving your fitness and weight-loss goals online. Again, not on this forum, really.
Good luck
*Sigh* Normally you give such good advice as well...
There have been some real clanger posts in this thread but I just have to stick my oar in and say this ^^ was the worst by far. As someone with three science A Levels, who is a vet student and whose brother is about to do medicine, I cannot reiterate this strongly enough: PLEASE DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO DIAGNOSE YOURSELF FROM ANYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET. You just don't know whether the information is reputable, where it's come from or which drugs are safe to mix with which others/whether there are contraindications concerning lifestyle etc. Only a doctor will be able to safely advise you on which drug is appropriate, and no qualified doctor worth his salt would ever put that kind of information on the net for everyone to see.
Hell, my basic scientific knowledge is pretty up to scratch, I generally know if something medicine-related I've read is bull****, and I would never even attempt to diagnose myself. Once a doctor has given you a list of possible diagnoses behind your symptoms there is of course nothing wrong with having a quick google to find out background information (although you're likely to scare yourself) but putting your trust in people you've never met and, to all intents and purposes, don't know, as far as your health is concerned is, in my view, nonsensical. You should certainly never arrive at your GP with a view to getting them to prescribe you a specific drug just because someone on a forum said it worked for them. You should just plainly tell them all your symptoms and let them do the hard stuff. If you are chasing after a particular drug then chances are you will leave out information you know will harm that goal and this could be potentially devastating, even fatal.
If you are having problems with your GP seemingly being disinterested or not having time to dedicate to your problems, switch practice. This is not something common to all doctors and it is doing a great disservice to the medical profession to act like doctors are just arrogant money-grabbers. All doctors, nurses, physiotherapists etc work incredibly long hours at a hugely stressful job, so get rid of any illusions you might have about it being glamorous and a way to get-rich-quick. Please understand that if you turn up with non-specific symptoms or a chronic, undefinable pain, it will take a while to diagnose you; that doesn't mean they don't want to help, just that instant gratification is not going to be possible insofar as curing you.
Similarly, blackswan, if you don't like having bodyparts touched, explain this beforehand as most GPs are so used to their job they won't give examining you a second though. They'll just assume you're fine with it too. Please don't make sweeping comments like that, it's really not very fair. If you suspect your GP's behaviour is truly inappropriate, report him rather than whinging about doctors in general on TSR. It's really not on.
Sorry to rant but I hope anyone who's had doubts about letting their doctor diagnose them and has thought about doing it themselves has got the message. It's so, so important.
blackswan
Bah don't knock my post it's serious. Since when is it "just a doctors job" to when you say you have an ingrown toenail and he tells you to take your clothes off? Or when he is feeling your glands (throat ones) he pushing himself against you? And feels your breasts when he using that stethicope?I'm not joking he did this with my mum, me and like half of the (country) town.
OMG Swan did you make a compaint?
OP sorry if I sound forthright but I think that your GP just cant be arsed with someone who is size 10 moaning about losing weight. You are seeing the wrong health professional. GP's dont even have time to see the seriously ill. You need to look in the yellow pages for a nutritionist, you dont need a referral for this. ANd please dont try to diagnose yourselves peeps
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