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City vs. QMUL 2 Year Senior LLB

I've been admitted to City and Queen Mary for the 2 year senior status LLB. As I'm from Canada, I'd like to do the degree in 2 rather than 3 years, so my options were quite limited when that desire is coupled with wanting to be in London.

Anyway, I've read pos and neg about both schools, just wondering if anyone has anything insightful to say about either school, perks, cons.

Another issue, though not nearly as important as school quality and reputation, is the fact that I'll be 25 when I start the course. I've already done my BA and worked for a couple years so I am not all that keen on being surrounded strictly by teens. (No offense to the teens, but I'm sure you can understand wanting to have a similar peer group)

I have searched through all the various rankings and it looks like Queen Mary is in the top 20 for law, and I don't really care what it's rank is for general quality as I'm sure that City law firms would concern themselves with their field. But obviously when I'm shelling out over 20K Cdn a year, I'd like to know I'm not going to some community college for half-wits.

Interesting advice will be appreciated.

Kathryn
Reply 1
Queen Mary, University of London is known nationally as well as internationally. There's just no comparison between these two in Law - really.
Especially since your from Canada as well.

IIRC, about 20% of applicants are international at QM - which kind of relates to your situation. Although a lot are in Eng and Materials.
Reply 2
Hi Kathy (if I may),

We are in the same boat, except I'm coming in from Toronto. But to be sure, I did a lot of research on the school and the area, and QMUL is an excellent school to attend. They have great contacts with fantastic firms if you get involved in different things such as ProBono or their version of Legal Aid.

However, to be honest, you and I have a bit of an advantage because we have a Canadian degree already so firms will be looking at that first and foremost.

Nevertheless, Good luck with your choice.

LL.
Reply 3
So will you be there also in September?

The connections with firms etc is something that this site has made me really nervous about. Lots of academic snobbery floating about on this forum, and all sorts of people puffing their chests out about which school is best. I don't know, I've never performed to my full potential at school, but most of the people I know who have are the ones who wear blinders to the outside world. Straight As certainly does say something, but how much, I don't know. Not when it comes to the career that follows, anyway. I suppose their is the diligence inherent to the grades. Anyway...

I have been worried that my age may be detrimental in the London TC market, but recruiters there I'm sure are well aware of the fact that Canadians must do an undergrad before pursuing law (in most cases).

Do you plan to write the LPC after the LLB?

KR.
Definitely City if it's not your first degree.
Reply 5
To Fidelis something-er-other: could you please qualify your option with some reasons? Thanks KR.
Reply 6
Ladylaw
Hi Kathy (if I may),

We are in the same boat, except I'm coming in from Toronto. But to be sure, I did a lot of research on the school and the area, and QMUL is an excellent school to attend. They have great contacts with fantastic firms if you get involved in different things such as ProBono or their version of Legal Aid.

However, to be honest, you and I have a bit of an advantage because we have a Canadian degree already so firms will be looking at that first and foremost.

Nevertheless, Good luck with your choice.

LL.


I don't know if having an undergrad degree from Canada bears much weight - otherwise Canadians would inundate the legal market and take over because they all have undergrads prior to English law degrees. School rep, grades, your social ability/CV, I think, will all outweigh having a Canadian undergrad.
Reply 7
kathycakes
I've been admitted to City and Queen Mary for the 2 year senior status LLB. As I'm from Canada, I'd like to do the degree in 2 rather than 3 years, so my options were quite limited when that desire is coupled with wanting to be in London.

Anyway, I've read pos and neg about both schools, just wondering if anyone has anything insightful to say about either school, perks, cons.

Another issue, though not nearly as important as school quality and reputation, is the fact that I'll be 25 when I start the course. I've already done my BA and worked for a couple years so I am not all that keen on being surrounded strictly by teens. (No offense to the teens, but I'm sure you can understand wanting to have a similar peer group)

I have searched through all the various rankings and it looks like Queen Mary is in the top 20 for law, and I don't really care what it's rank is for general quality as I'm sure that City law firms would concern themselves with their field. But obviously when I'm shelling out over 20K Cdn a year, I'd like to know I'm not going to some community college for half-wits.

Interesting advice will be appreciated.

Kathryn

Hi Kathryn,

I just posted very similar questions. I, too, got accepted into City Law School and Queen Mary, University of London Law. I am also Canadian, living in Toronto, and I am 25. I am graduating with my Masters of IR shortly and I have a BA Political Science from Acadia University--I also worked as a Policy Advisor in downtown Toronto the past year and a half (to enable my law application). Anyway, after doing some research, I think that QMUL is a much better university. I got accepted into the 2-yr Senior Status LLB and I am very excited about 'eliminating' one year (as we would have to take a 3-yr program here) and potentially practice in London. I think I would eventually like to come back to Canada and start a private practice, but that is too far off to make a judgement like that at the momment.

Where are you living in Canada (if you don't mind me asking)? Why are you applying to UK law schools? My only concern is the age-range of Senior Status LLB students, so it's great to learn you are also the same age. What area do you think you will specialize in?

I hope to hear from you!
Laura
Reply 8
man, how many international applicants have been rejected from Queen Mary? Probably few if any!
Kathy, just wante dto respond to the bit re peer groups/teens... I'm doing my LLB on a part time basis at Sheffield Hallam. My "class" (the part time group) are all mature students and I'm one of, if not THE oldest at 36. I have also involved myslef in activities outside of my group - i.e. mooting etc and a sa reuslt have found myself in the midst of the 18/19yr olds. I have to say that by and large I haven;t felt out of place at all. I've sat in on a couple of full-time lectures when my part-time classes have clashed with shifts at work - and yes, a childish element has been noticeable at times within that large group of 18yr old full time students - but certainly not such as it interefered in any obtrusive way.

I'm sure studying Full Time would perhaps expose you to that chidish element a little more, but I really don't think its a factor that should take up much of your consideration. I, personally, would not have any issues with moving from Part-Time to Full-Time.
Reply 10
City's CPE is the most well-reputed conversion course for prospective barristers in the country. I therefore imagine that the same can be said for the Graduate LLB. Seriously, if you want to go to the English Bar, GO TO CITY.