Which university would you recommend regarding a MSc Entrepreneurship and Innovation Watch

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Hello everyone,

after browsing this as well as other forums for quite some time I thought it'd be best to ask for your advice.
Having gained 7 years of work experience (including three years postgraduate) in the corporate world, I have decided to apply for a MSc in Entrepreneurship and Innovation. I want to follow my passion of starting my own business someday. Still, I want to apply for postgraduate studies in the UK to deepen my knowledge in the field of entrepreneurship. I am seeking a practice-oriented MSc programme, ideally where students are given the opportunity to start a business while studying. I am considering to apply at the following universities:
- Lancaster
- Warwick
- Cranfield
- Cardiff
- Manchester

Do you know anything about their entrepreneurship programmes or can you recommend any of these universities regarding their activities in the field of entrepreneurship?
So far, I have only talked to a Lancaster graduate who was quite satisfied. Cranfield, for example, doesn't provide any information about current students or alumni as their programme started in 2015 for the first time.

Thank you in advance for any information about these programmes/universities.

Best wishes
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Just a quick Q to clarify yr profile. Are you an engineering grad or a business administration? Are all five programmes managed by the Business School? You mentioned that you like practice-oriented MSc, what concentration of entrepreneurship: technology commerce, finance, managing growth, tech policy? What is yr goal, work for a tech, public sector economic development board or private consulting?

Most students have less seasoning than you, some even come straight out of undergrad. I am familiar with Warwick and Manchester. Giuliana Battist teaches at WBS and there is a research group for innovation at MBS.

LBS MBA has the best incubator for innovative business in the UK (seed money, office space, VC/PE network through alumni, mentoring by profs, track record and business plan as credit). Some successful start ups have come out by student projects.

Cranfield SOM is a strong B-School with close relationship to industry and executive training. But I would be cautious to enroll into an untested new programme with some minor start up concerns. Better to rely on a tested programme (profs know their syllabus, existing alumni network, maybe even recruitment opps as firms know the programme and career office can help).
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Hi Tcannon, and sorry for not being clear enough here. I studied business administration as co-operative studies. I'm not sure how common this model is in the UK, but it could be described as sort of part-time study supported by my employer in terms of financial and time support, while having a normal 100% contract.

- Warwick MSc is managed by University of Warwick WMG (Warwick Manufacturing Group, academic dep. of University of Warwick)
All other programmes mentioned above are managed by the related business schools, as far as I know.
Regarding focus, I'd say technology and commerce. I could imagine working for a tech, commerce, consulting firm/startup later, as a so-called plan B if I can't manage to start my own business right away.

I first considered to apply for an MBA programme, but refrained from that idea since it would be much more expensive and I wouldn't consider myself being determined enough to follow a well-payed management career after receiving my degree in order to pay back my loans.

To me, your concerns about Cranfield are comprehensible. I had the same thoughts about Lancaster since their MSc started in 2013, I think. Nonetheless, I talked to an alumnus and he believes that some of the minor issues should be fixed by now.
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3 yr Berufsakademie BA? I have heard of it mostly for firms in Baden-Württemberg.

Yes, I thought that WMG runs the Innovation course. WMG has a good reputation to partner uni with nearby manufacturing firms in Conventry area. Very much balancing theory and practice, problem solving approach. The Conventry cluster is mostly automotive industry and suppliers (Rover, Mini, Jag etc form old industry). To be fair, Conventry industrial cluster does not host new tech. Software firms (MSFT, Oracle, HP) are in the Berkshire corridor around Reading and biotech, IT are in Cambridge. So WMG is traditional tech and focused on automation technology. The former WMG CEO Prof Bhattacharyya was business adviser to Blair Government, he raised lots of research funds from industry. I think the profile of most WMG students are STEM undergrad background, the goal is to take engineers and equip them with business skills. Shift from specialist to general management.

I think most Innovation syllabus is project management focused. just check access to industry (internships, consulting projects, recruitment or adjunct lecturers from industry).

Manchester is good too. Lancaster B-School is best known for Operation Research and Telecom. I can understand that high MBA tuition would put you off. Good luck
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3 yr Berufsakademie BA? I have heard of it mostly for firms in Baden-Württemberg.

Yes, I thought that WMG runs the Innovation course. WMG has a good reputation to partner uni with nearby manufacturing firms in Conventry area. Very much balancing theory and practice, problem solving approach. The Conventry cluster is mostly automotive industry and suppliers (Rover, Mini, Jag etc form old industry). To be fair, Conventry industrial cluster does not host new tech. Software firms (MSFT, Oracle, HP) are in the Berkshire corridor around Reading and biotech, IT are in Cambridge. So WMG is traditional tech and focused on automation technology. The former WMG CEO Prof Bhattacharyya was business adviser to Blair Government, he raised lots of research funds from industry. I think the profile of most WMG students are STEM undergrad background, the goal is to take engineers and equip them with business skills. Shift from specialist to general management.

I think most Innovation syllabus is project management focused. just check access to industry (internships, consulting projects, recruitment or adjunct lecturers from industry).

Manchester is good too. Lancaster B-School is best known for Operation Research and Telecom. I can understand that high MBA tuition would put you off. Good luck
It's similar to Berufsakademie, but these programmes' include practical education by the participating companies, while my studies weren't directly associated to my job during this time. It was sort of part-time on two or three days/evenings per week, while I held a 'normal' position as a Communications Manager in the company.

Do you know anything about Birmingham University or Surrey in terms of entrepreneurship?

I might as well try to get in contact with some recent graduates of all mentioned programmes. It's kinda hard to gain information about these entrepreneurship programmes. :-/
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why would you do a degree in entrepreneurship to be an entrepreneur? its like an oxymoron
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why would you do a degree in entrepreneurship to be an entrepreneur? its like an oxymoron
I know about the controversy and some might be better off to 'just do it'. Still, I have decided to apply for a MSc degree because I wish to focus on my studies fulltime. I've had 3,5 years during my bachelor studies in which I mainly had to succeed in my job and attended university on saturdays and evenings. Moreover, I didn't get the chance to go abroad during my bachelor, due to my job. I really feel like I'd miss some valuable experience if I didn't take this step in order to grow as a person. I hope this sounds somehow comprehensible.

Besides, I believe that a practice-oriented programme might contribute to reducing risks if you want to start a business, as well as bring you together with like-minded people in a creative environment.
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Sorry, no idea about MSc entrepreneurship at Birmingham and Surrey.

(Original post by german_guy)
It's similar to Berufsakademie, but these programmes' include practical education by the participating companies, while my studies weren't directly associated to my job during this time. It was sort of part-time on two or three days/evenings per week, while I held a 'normal' position as a Communications Manager in the company.

Do you know anything about Birmingham University or Surrey in terms of entrepreneurship?

I might as well try to get in contact with some recent graduates of all mentioned programmes. It's kinda hard to gain information about these entrepreneurship programmes. :-/
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(Original post by german_guy)
Hello everyone,

after browsing this as well as other forums for quite some time I thought it'd be best to ask for your advice.
Having gained 7 years of work experience (including three years postgraduate) in the corporate world, I have decided to apply for a MSc in Entrepreneurship and Innovation. I want to follow my passion of starting my own business someday. Still, I want to apply for postgraduate studies in the UK to deepen my knowledge in the field of entrepreneurship. I am seeking a practice-oriented MSc programme, ideally where students are given the opportunity to start a business while studying. I am considering to apply at the following universities:
- Lancaster
- Warwick
- Cranfield
- Cardiff
- Manchester

Do you know anything about their entrepreneurship programmes or can you recommend any of these universities regarding their activities in the field of entrepreneurship?
So far, I have only talked to a Lancaster graduate who was quite satisfied. Cranfield, for example, doesn't provide any information about current students or alumni as their programme started in 2015 for the first time.

Thank you in advance for any information about these programmes/universities.

Best wishes
I did my Bachelors in Entrepreneurship at an ex-poly and that had a whole year of practice based founding and managing a business with self-analysis-based assessments.

The majority of Entrepreneurship programmes are going to be a lot like this so don't worry too much. However there are some programme that focus more on Entrepreneurship psychology and motivation which are less practice leaning.
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I would recommend Warwick. Also, try checking oit the equivalent program at Imperial and Cambridge.
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OP was almost a year ago, no idea what they ended up doing.

If you want to start a business, then do that. No need for a masters in entrepreneurship. Learn by doing.
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i got the same problem with u,i have received an offer from Cranfield MSc in Management and Enterpreneurship. i have worked for 5 years ,this year i quited my job and starting my own business. i prefer Cranfield SOM, i have chatted with an alumni who studied in 2016,he strongly recommended me to choose this programme,but cranfield doesnt provide any information or detail about this course. have u decided which university u will go?
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i got the same problem with u, i have received the offer from Cranfield MSc in management and enterpreneurship. i have worked for 5 years and this year i starting my own bisiness. i prefer Cranfield University SOM,but i cant get more information about this course. have u decided which university u will go?
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(Original post by Ryanwong0520)
i got the same problem with u, i have received the offer from Cranfield MSc in management and enterpreneurship. i have worked for 5 years and this year i starting my own bisiness. i prefer Cranfield University SOM,but i cant get more information about this course. have u decided which university u will go?
Hi Ryanwong,

I hope you are fine. Cranfield TSR rep here. Your profile is a profile with quite a good number of students who have showed interest in the MSc in Management and Entrepreneurship course. Can you please confirm the kind of information you need about the course. I am assuming you have checked the website in details and your questions will be separate from the information in the website.

Any specific question(s)?

Best,
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(Original post by Ryanwong0520)
i got the same problem with u, i have received the offer from Cranfield MSc in management and enterpreneurship. i have worked for 5 years and this year i starting my own bisiness. i prefer Cranfield University SOM,but i cant get more information about this course. have u decided which university u will go?
And I have replied your private message. You are welcome!
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I was in a similar boat to you, took me ages to decide on an entrepreneurship MSc. Ones that seem most practice-oriented with best start-up support (incubators, etc) IMO seem to be Surrey, Warwick, Leeds & Bristol. Entirely depends on what kind of 'practice-oriented' skills you are looking for though, they all offer very different programmes. If you take a look at the university websites they give more info on business support and module breakdowns which might make it easier for you to decide if the course will really meet your expectations.
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Have you started studying yet? Would love to chat to you about what it's like if you'd be happy to!
(Original post by TiggerTash)
I was in a similar boat to you, took me ages to decide on an entrepreneurship MSc. Ones that seem most practice-oriented with best start-up support (incubators, etc) IMO seem to be Surrey, Warwick, Leeds & Bristol. Entirely depends on what kind of 'practice-oriented' skills you are looking for though, they all offer very different programmes. If you take a look at the university websites they give more info on business support and module breakdowns which might make it easier for you to decide if the course will really meet your expectations.
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I have indeed Going into my final project for MSc Innovation and Entrepreneurship at Uni of Bristol.. Feel free to ask!
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Have you started studying yet? Would love to chat to you about what it's like if you'd be happy to!
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