# Energetics Question Help

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Any ideas how to attack this monster..?
5. Nitric acid is produced industrially from ammonia, air and water using the following sequence of reactions:

(1) 4NH3 (g) + 5O2(g) → 4NO(g) + 6H2O(g) ∆H = –909 kJ mol−1
(2) 2NO(g) + O2(g) → 2NO2(g) ∆H = –115 kJ mol−1
(3) 3NO2(g) + H2O(l) → 2HNO3(aq) + NO(g) ∆H = –117 kJ mol−1
Which is the enthalpy change (in kJ mol−1) for the following reaction?
4NH3(g) + 7O2(g) → 4NO2(g) + 6H2O(g)
A −679
B −794
C −1024
D −1139

thanks
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6 years ago
#2
Moved to chemistry.
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6 years ago
#3
Look at the equation you're given, and try to see it as a combination of the given equations above it. What do you notice?
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6 years ago
#4
(Original post by oxe)
Any ideas how to attack this monster..?
5. Nitric acid is produced industrially from ammonia, air and water using the following sequence of reactions:

(1) 4NH3 (g) + 5O2(g) → 4NO(g) + 6H2O(g) ∆H = –909 kJ mol−1
(2) 2NO(g) + O2(g) → 2NO2(g) ∆H = –115 kJ mol−1
(3) 3NO2(g) + H2O(l) → 2HNO3(aq) + NO(g) ∆H = –117 kJ mol−1
Which is the enthalpy change (in kJ mol−1) for the following reaction?
4NH3(g) + 7O2(g) → 4NO2(g) + 6H2O(g)
A −679
B −794
C −1024
D −1139

thanks
Your line of attack is to construct the required equation one step at a time using the equations that you are given and the four rules of number (x/+-).

I would work from the left to the right in a sequential manner, but leaving oxygen to last. (doing the same to the energy value at each step)

eg

4NH3(g) + 7O2(g) → 4NO2(g) + 6H2O(g)

Then you need 4NO molecules on the RHS so you double equation 2 and reverse it before adding to equation 1.
etc
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#5
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2 years ago
#6
using data from equation 1 and 2 enthalpy change can be calculated Enthalpy change= -909 2(-115) = -1139 KJ/mol
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2 years ago
#7
using data from equation 1 and 2 enthalpy change can be calculated Enthalpy change= -909 + 2(-115) = -1139 KJ/mol
Welcome to TSR.

A word of advice before replying to threads is check the date. This one is 4 years old. I doubt oxe needs help with this one, since s/he's probably finished university by now.

You also missed out a +, but I've added it for you
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2 years ago
#8
well no because people like me may need that extra explanation and that comment helped.
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2 years ago
#9
A reply, however old could be useful, as I was looking for the answer to the same problem, and I am grateful for the clear answer from Nadia2020
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1 year ago
#10
bad advice as 4 years later here i am, looking for help on this very question.
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1 year ago
#11
(Original post by oxe)
Any ideas how to attack this monster..?
5. Nitric acid is produced industrially from ammonia, air and water using the following sequence of reactions:

(1) 4NH3 (g) + 5O2(g) → 4NO(g) + 6H2O(g) ∆H = –909 kJ mol−1
(2) 2NO(g) + O2(g) → 2NO2(g) ∆H = –115 kJ mol−1
(3) 3NO2(g) + H2O(l) → 2HNO3(aq) + NO(g) ∆H = –117 kJ mol−1
Which is the enthalpy change (in kJ mol−1) for the following reaction?
4NH3(g) + 7O2(g) → 4NO2(g) + 6H2O(g)
A −679
B −794
C −1024
D −1139

thanks
Firstly, you don't need equation 3- that is a red herring

Multiply equation 2 by 2 to get 4NO +2O2 --> 4NO2 delta H for this is 2 x -115Kj = -230KJ
Then combine this with equation 1, the 4NO's appear on both sides and cancel out to give:

4NH3 + 7O2 --> 4NO2 + 6H20 delta H is -230 + (-909) = -1139

See attachment for details
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1 year ago
#12
(Original post by Davies Chemistry)
Firstly, you don't need equation 3- that is a red herring

Multiply equation 2 by 2 to get 4NO +2O2 --> 4NO2 delta H for this is 2 x -115Kj = -230KJ
Then combine this with equation 1, the 4NO's appear on both sides and cancel out to give:

4NH3 + 7O2 --> 4NO2 + 6H20 delta H is -230 + (-909) = -1139

See attachment for details
love your method, but how is it possible that we can cancel both sides, wouldn't the NO2 of both sides still change the entahlpy? is it because you don't need no enthaply to change no2 to no2?
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1 year ago
#13
(Original post by interlanken-fall)
love your method, but how is it possible that we can cancel both sides, wouldn't the NO2 of both sides still change the entahlpy? is it because you don't need no enthaply to change no2 to no2?
You can look at it from two perspectives, I guess. Like in maths you can cancel things on boths sides or like you say the enthalpy change to 4NO from 4NO is zero - it's like a spectator.
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