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    (Original post by Savage R3N3GAD3)
    Thank you for your concern, I appreciate that. She hasn't inflicted any serious physical damage to me (yet). I've moved on from the violence, to me it's not such a huge issue and I can live with it, because it's a part of her and she can't control it or change it. I have to find a way to avoid getting hit, perhaps by diffusing the situation next time before things escalate. And I'm probably stronger than her so I know that I'd be able to defend myself if I need to, and I have done that before, but she'll probably end up blinding me one day or doing something really spiteful like hurting me while I'm sleeping, that's always in the back of my mind but I'm willing to take the risk because she's everything to me. It's not her fault, she can't control it when she flies into a murderous rage and starts hitting me. That's just a part of who she is and it's something I have to accept.
    This is exactly what concerns me; often physical abuse escalates in relationships; just because she hasn't harmed you seriously yet doesn't mean she won't in future. I would recommend getting out before she does so serious damage to you.


    Your girlfriend sounds like she needs serious anger management therapy btw; you sound like you're making excuses for her, everyone is capable of exercising force of self will. I'm sure you love her and everything but it's not healthy for you to be in this kind of relationship and just because you're physically strong enough to defend yourself against her it doesn't make it any less wrong that she is physically abusing you.

    It shouldn't be your responsibility to 'avoid getting hit.' The onus should be on her and her alone to control her temper and resolve her anger in a mature, adult way without resorting to physical violence. If the genders were reversed in your situation do you think anyone would expect you to stand for it?
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    Oh look this would be all well and good if it wasn't pitched for you to start talking about antifeminism in not so many words.

    You don't understanding the meaning of any of this.

    Domestic violence is wrong per se not because someone has a **** or a fanny... that is irrelevant.
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    (Original post by balanced)
    EDIT: THANK YOU TO THOSE IN THE COMMENTS WHO ARE PROVING THE ARTICLES POINT, THAT MEN ARE JUST LAUGHED AT, DISGUSTING.
    The telegraph can reveal that 700,000 men are victims of domestic abuse in the UK, and those who report it are often arrested after being abused. Furthermore, society does not take them seriously and mocks them, saying that they are lying or are wimps.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...hemselves.html

    “The type of thing we hear is ‘my wife or girlfriend has said if I leave, or tell anyone, she will say I was the one attacking her and she was just defending herself.”
    I don't know why some people on here are laughing at those proclaiming to be trapped in an abusive relationship with the woman in their lives; it's a very serious issue and it's horrible women like these that give men trust issues. Surely physical violence is wrong regardless of whose perpetrating it and who's on the receiving end?
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    I don't know why some people on here are laughing at those proclaiming to be trapped in an abusive relationship with the woman in their lives; it's a very serious issue and it's horrible women like these that give men trust issues. Surely physical violence is wrong regardless of whose perpetrating it and who's on the receiving end?
    They're just children. Pay no heed.
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    (Original post by driftawaay)
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    No I will not stay silent about 700,000 victims of abuse.
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    (Original post by Little Popcorns)
    Oh look this would be all well and good if it wasn't pitched for you to start talking about antifeminism in not so many words.

    You don't understanding the meaning of any of this.

    Domestic violence is wrong per se not because someone has a **** or a fanny... that is irrelevant.
    I realised this is a bad story for you feminists and misandrics, a good move to say it's not to do with gender, but when it concerns women it is? :toofunny:
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    (Original post by Little Popcorns)
    Oh look this would be all well and good if it wasn't pitched for you to start talking about antifeminism in not so many words.

    You don't understanding the meaning of any of this.

    Domestic violence is wrong per se not because someone has a **** or a fanny... that is irrelevant.
    It's everything to do with gender, as you can see in the article as often the abused men get arrested themselves.
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    (Original post by Evil Genius)
    If you're a man getting beat up regularly by your women then lol. Maybe these 700,000 females are cagefighting world champions but I doubt it haha.
    Thanks for supporting the research that people don't take domestic violence seriously.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ27W2K12fk Its important.
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    I would suggest investing in better mental health treatment via the NHS, offering grant money for specialist charities and investing in police services. But we have a Conservative government that would rather run such services into the ground, preferring a keep calm and carry on attitude.
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    (Original post by Quantex)
    I would suggest investing in better mental health treatment via the NHS, offering grant money for specialist charities and investing in police services. But we have a Conservative government that would rather run such services into the ground, preferring a keep calm and carry on attitude.
    I thought you were talking about the government for a moment until that last sentence. They are protecting police funding and increasing mental health funding, so what are you on about?
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    (Original post by balanced)
    I thought you were talking about the government for a moment until that last sentence. They are protecting police funding and increasing mental health funding, so what are you on about?
    Police have already faced cuts in the region of 20% over the last few years. They would have cut further if bad publicity did not force a U-turn.

    Mental health funding was cut by 8% in real terms between 2010-2015, resulting in frequent bed shortages and people being offered computer programs or self-help worksheets instead of effective therapy. Throwing a relative small bit of cash at it now won't turn around a massively underfunded service.

    We've also seen cuts to local women's domestic abuse charities. Don't expect men to get much support until The Conservatives start taking such issues seriously.
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
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    Why? Do you think I can't support male victims of abuse and campaign for rights of women? Of course I can, and do.

    All cases of abuse whether domestic are not are serious. I'm incredibly unsure about how they have calculated the 700,000 figure, the article has not outlined where on earth it got that number from.

    I am not saying it doesn't happen, but let's see where they've got this number from.

    I'm not actually sure what you want from me here, of course it's awful if anyone is abused. The way which you and others will of course spin this is that women aren't allowed to campaign on their issues.

    You see the problem is, things such as this could be brought to attention if we had a compassionate, caring mens movement. But we don't. MRA by and large tend to be very right wing, anti-feminists who don't actually care for mens issues.

    You can support men's issues and be a feminisits, the problem is people like you see the two positions as inherently contradictory when they are not. In fact I have supported mens' rights by campaigning against austerity which impoverishes huge numbers of men. I've also helped out with mental health campaigns, another issues which causes huge numbers of male suicides.
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    (Original post by balanced)
    I realised this is a bad story for you feminists and misandrics, a good move to say it's not to do with gender, but when it concerns women it is? :toofunny:
    Why on earth is this bad news for feminists? All abuse is wrong. You can campaign on womens issues and condemn abuse on men. I do. There is no contradiction at all. It's just folk like you try and turn it into an us v them mentality.

    Although having said that would you care to tell me where the 700,000 figure is from?
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    (Original post by balanced)
    No I will not stay silent about 700,000 victims of abuse.
    Again, where does this figure come from?

    Yes, the Telegraph told you so. But where does it come from? Because the link the Telegraph cited as a source hasn't used that number either, as far as I can see. Neither does the source cited by that website.

    I mean, it's not like I'd dream of suggesting a newspaper be capable of being anything less than trustworthy, but...




    NB. This is not intended to diminish the suffering of many people regardless of their gender. But when the thread title screams a number and demands we be appalled, I think it is worthwhile to poke under the surface of the sensationalist journalism, just a little at least.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Why? Do you think I can't support male victims of abuse and campaign for rights of women? Of course I can, and do.

    All cases of abuse whether domestic are not are serious. I'm incredibly unsure about how they have calculated the 700,000 figure, the article has not outlined where on earth it got that number from.

    I am not saying it doesn't happen, but let's see where they've got this number from.

    I'm not actually sure what you want from me here, of course it's awful if anyone is abused. The way which you and others will of course spin this is that women aren't allowed to campaign on their issues.

    You see the problem is, things such as this could be brought to attention if we had a compassionate, caring mens movement. But we don't. MRA by and large tend to be very right wing, anti-feminists who don't actually care for mens issues.

    You can support men's issues and be a feminisits, the problem is people like you see the two positions as inherently contradictory when they are not. In fact I have supported mens' rights by campaigning against austerity which impoverishes huge numbers of men. I've also helped out with mental health campaigns, another issues which causes huge numbers of male suicides.
    Second straw man in a row. You're on a roll!
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Second straw man in a row. You're on a roll!
    Great. You asked for my opinion and disregard my answer.
    I'm not actually sure why you tagged me.
    If you're going to assert a straw man then explain why. I barely mentioned you at all, and the points stand regardless.

    You sound like you've just learnt about logical fallacies and are now keen to start saying 'straw man' every time you disagree.
    If something is a straw man argument then explain why. Given you didn't actually say anything and tagged me, there cannot possibly be a straw man.
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    (Original post by balanced)
    No I will not stay silent about 700,000 victims of abuse.
    You seem happy about it. As soon as you saw the headline it gave you an excuse to bash feminism rather than show any actual sympathy for the victims. The victims' experience means nothing to you, it's just a stick to hit feminists with.

    The fact you brought feminism up at all speaks volumes about your motives.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Why on earth is this bad news for feminists? All abuse is wrong. You can campaign on womens issues and condemn abuse on men. I do. There is no contradiction at all. It's just folk like you try and turn it into an us v them mentality.

    Although having said that would you care to tell me where the 700,000 figure is from?
    It's from the telegraph article.
 
 
 
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