Have Charlie Hebdo cartoon gone too far?

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Jibola240
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Recently the cartoon put out some disturbing cartoons that suggest that the drowned boy(Kurdi) may have grew up to be a sexual abuser. I think what they did was distasteful, but this is what they are know for, so I'm not sure why there is such an outrage among a few people. Further reading with some of the images:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...-racism-debate
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*Sigh*

No-one gets French humor...
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*Sigh*

No-one gets French humor...
IKR.
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Seriously hoping those two comments above are sarcastic. In any case , **** Charlie Hebdo.
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That particular cartoon isn't to my taste, but it's ironic isn't it? If those blockhead murderers didn't do what they did last year, none of us would have even heard of Charlie.

Now, thanks to their actions, everyone does and their cartoons get world-wide media coverage.
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lol'd when I saw it
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**** Charlie ****o.
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As is said in the article, they may well be satirising the sweeping statements being made about refugees.

The first thing I thought of is that they're challenging papers on their hypocrisy, for encouraging immigration when showing the picture of Alan, and then demonising immigrants after the attacks in Cologne.

Regardless, I support their right to publish cartoons without fear of being murdered.
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As is said in the article, they may well be satirising the sweeping statements being made about refugees.

The first thing I thought of is that they're challenging papers on their hypocrisy, for encouraging immigration when showing the picture of Alan, and then demonising immigrants after the attacks in Cologne.

Regardless, I support their right to publish cartoons without fear of being murdered.
This is the most bull**** I've ever heard. 'May well be satirising sweeping statements'. We both know that's absolutely not true, and it's a 'get out of jail free' card, every time this disgusting magazine publishes someone new.

They are making a mockery of the death of a child. A child that drowned, through no fault of his own. His face lying in the sand. Anyone justifying this is a c*** tbh.

Certainly they shouldn't be murdered, but I would like to question all those who marched in such solidarity with them just over a year ago. Does this sit well with them? Their idea of freedom of speech?

People have the right to say abhorrent things, and I won't go out and punch them for it, but I certainly won't support them or condone their actions, or try to justify them in anyway.
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They need to get their **** together
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This is the most bull**** I've ever heard. 'May well be satirising sweeping statements'. We both know that's absolutely not true, and it's a 'get out of jail free' card, every time this disgusting magazine publishes someone new.

They are making a mockery of the death of a child. A child that drowned, through no fault of his own. His face lying in the sand. Anyone justifying this is a c*** tbh.

Certainly they shouldn't be murdered, but I would like to question all those who marched in such solidarity with them just over a year ago. Does this sit well with them? Their idea of freedom of speech?

People have the right to say abhorrent things, and I won't go out and punch them for it, but I certainly won't support them or condone their actions, or try to justify them in anyway.
Charlie Hebdo is a satirical magazine, all of their cartoons therefore challenge or mock stereotypes and current events. I don't find it remotely hard to believe that this cartoon is satire, published in a satirical magazine.

I don't justify much of what they draw, including numerous anti-semitic cartoons. However, so long as it doesn't incite hate crime, I still support their right to express what they think.
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The problem: Every couple month one caricature is taken out of context. The actual magazine we are taking about has text, too, hence everything is put in context.
=> But the fault made is, that:
a) The only reason, why those caricatures are shown, because somehow people have to remember themselves, that the terrorists where right by singling out that magazine. Otherwise they would discuss every issue and all caricatures in context. (No, they don't. I doubt most people have even read one isssue.)
b) The magazine by it's definition is a satirical magazine, the caricatures are NOT MEANT to be 100% serious and are not what people (outside of France) take them for. Charlie Hebdo is NOT the independant, guardian, times, etc. ...
c) Satire taken out of the satirical context often sounds evil. That is one aim of satire.
d) The Yellow Press is much more debatable (and reaches far more people), but as their journalists are much more powerful, it is seldom discussed. Charlie Hebdo is easy to discuss, because there is no influencial person behind, which can get people into trouble or launch a large campaign.

I do not say, that you have to like that journal and everyone has the right to say "I don't like this" and yes, satire is sometimes really over the top. But I would like that the debate is a bit more realistic, concerning the actual impact of those pictures, the motivation behind, the will to analyze the whole article (the source, not another article about) and the will to see the paper and it is actual position in the media landscape.

A general problem is, that people are often not researching by themselves and then are easily overreacting, because it is a picture and not a text. There are really dangerous magazines out there (e.g. some NAZI-papers), but somehow I MET NOTBODY critizing those. Probably because they are never in the papers. Better spent your time debating and fighting papers, who have a real agenda behind them. (Nota bene: Those are often on the first glance totally okay, because they want the people lure into far-right-thinking.)
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Charlie Hebdo is a satirical magazine, all of their cartoons therefore challenge or mock stereotypes and current events. I don't find it remotely hard to believe that this cartoon is satire, published in a satirical magazine.

I don't justify much of what they draw, including numerous anti-semitic cartoons. However, so long as it doesn't incite hate crime, I still support their right to express what they think.
Satirical by name. They've evolved into something much more worrying and hateful.

At the end of the day, they can call themselves whatever they like, but they are still a bunch of disgusting adults, making a mockery of the death of a child.
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Its about how fickle public opinion is, alyan dies and everybody is saying open the borders cologne sex attacks close the borders all male refugees are perverts, they are right we are fickle.
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ffs why do people rape people

ffs why do people use dead kids to make points

omg did i just use a dead kid to make a point
wow being PC is hard
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Satirical by name. They've evolved into something much more worrying and hateful.

At the end of the day, they can call themselves whatever they like, but they are still a bunch of disgusting adults, making a mockery of the death of a child.
Their cartoons have always been this provocative, look at their anti-semitic cartoons which they've been doing for years.

It is very likely that they're not mocking the boy's death, but instead using him to highlight the hypocrisy of the media and general public in their treatment of refugees.
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This is the most bull**** I've ever heard. 'May well be satirising sweeping statements'. We both know that's absolutely not true, and it's a 'get out of jail free' card, every time this disgusting magazine publishes someone new.

They are making a mockery of the death of a child. A child that drowned, through no fault of his own. His face lying in the sand. Anyone justifying this is a c*** tbh.

Certainly they shouldn't be murdered, but I would like to question all those who marched in such solidarity with them just over a year ago. Does this sit well with them? Their idea of freedom of speech?

People have the right to say abhorrent things, and I won't go out and punch them for it, but I certainly won't support them or condone their actions, or try to justify them in anyway.
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Their cartoons have always been this provocative, look at their anti-semitic cartoons which they've been doing for years.

It is very likely that they're not mocking the boy's death, but instead using him to highlight the hypocrisy of the media and general public in their treatment of refugees.
Where is the hypocrisy?
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If only people actually tried to understand the picture rather than get offended right away. But I guess it might just be too much to ask people to use rational thought.
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