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    It's a huge decision that our country will have to make in the next two years, if not the next year. David Cameron believes that we should stay in, going against many Conservatives. What are your views on the subject? Do you believe we should stay in or leave?
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    Quamquam123 You're more likely to get responses if you post this in the main UK politics forum rather than in the MHoC
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    The MhofC have had the referendum and the people voted to remain in the EU.
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    A better, more business orientated EU would certainly be worth staying in but at the moment this isn't what we are seeing. Economics was the core of the EEC so it seems a shame that the EU has overly delved into law making when it should be about trade.
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    Airmed, could you move this to the UK Politics forum, please?
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    It's a huge decision that our country will have to make in the next two years, if not the next year. David Cameron believes that we should stay in, going against many Conservatives. What are your views on the subject? Do you believe we should stay in or leave?
    You've already derailed the topic. Many conservatives? The party is majority stay in. It's always been the policy.
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    Airmed, could you move this to the UK Politics forum, please?
    Will do now.
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    As a eurospectics I believe our interests are better served outside the EU
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    You've already derailed the topic. Many conservatives? The party is majority stay in. It's always been the policy.
    ConHome says 71% leave.
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    As a eurospectics I believe our interests are better served outside the EU
    Hear, hear!
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    Theses are some benefits of leaving the EU . And people will be £1000 better of out
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Cheaper food
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    Theses are some benefits of leaving the EU . And people will be £1000 better of out
    Most of our food is imported through the EU so that's going to cause prices to skyrocket, not decrease.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    ConHome says 71% leave.
    That poll did not involve the MPs which I was referring to and only involved the members who signed up. It took a sample of them, a small sample that is, so not representative, but my point was the party (the MPs in parliament), of which the majority will stand behind Cameron for staying in. And as we all know with Tory supporters, whatever Cameron supports, they support, they are sheep after all.
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    (Original post by The Reality)
    That poll did not involve the MPs which I was referring to and only involved the members who signed up. It took a sample of them, a small sample that is, so not representative, but my point was the party (the MPs in parliament), of which the majority will stand behind Cameron for staying in. And as we all know with Tory supporters, whatever Cameron supports, they support, they are sheep after all.
    Party =/= parliamentary party. And no Tory voters don't always support whatever Cameron supports. I know several who disagreed with him over gay marriage, for example, and several who will be voting to leave the EU regardless. (I'm not a Tory btw, far from it, just correcting you.)
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    As a eurospectics I believe our interests are better served outside the EU
    Osbourne is one of those Tories who calls himself a eurosceptic when really he will campaign to stay in whatever the result. Talk about playing politics with the electorate. Him and Cameron are the typical Politicans who are voting for staying in to fullfill their vested interests.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Party =/= parliamentary party. And no Tory voters don't always support whatever Cameron supports. I know several who disagreed with him over gay marriage, for example, and several who will be voting to leave the EU regardless. (I'm not a Tory btw, far from it, just correcting you.)
    Comparing gay marriage to the European question is mad to say the least. Cameron and his cabinet have the benefit of project fear at their disposal. The outcome after not passing gay marriage was obvious, not as much with leaving the EU.

    This is how it will go:
    Cameron:"if we leave the EU there will be jobs lost and a decrease in pensions"

    ...and that's it. The average Tory voter will vote to stay. They are sheep after all
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    (Original post by The Reality)
    Comparing gay marriage to the European question is mad to say the least. Cameron and his cabinet have the benefit of project fear at their disposal. The outcome after not passing gay marriage was obvious, not as much with leaving the EU.

    This is how it will go:
    Cameron:"if we leave the EU there will be jobs lost and a decrease in pensions"

    ...and that's it. The average Tory voter will vote to stay. They are sheep after all
    It's really, really not as simple as that. There is a large constituency of right-wing Tories who have largely already decided and who simply won't buy Cameron's project fear, because when you're a right-wing xenophobe and you perceive yourself as surrounded by European immigrants 'taking our jobs, innit' as many of them do, you don't listen to people saying that leaving the EU will have economic effects.
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    (Original post by The Reality)
    Comparing gay marriage to the European question is mad to say the least. Cameron and his cabinet have the benefit of project fear at their disposal. The outcome after not passing gay marriage was obvious, not as much with leaving the EU.

    This is how it will go:
    Cameron:"if we leave the EU there will be jobs lost and a decrease in pensions"

    ...and that's it. The average Tory voter will vote to stay. They are sheep after all
    So are you saying Cameron's view mirrors the views of everyone in the Conservative Party? cranbrook-asbie has provided you with a statistic and you have simply ignored it. Why?
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Cheaper food
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    Theses are some benefits of leaving the EU . And people will be £1000 better of out
    Where have you got £1000 from?
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Cheaper food
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    Theses are some benefits of leaving the EU . And people will be £1000 better of out
    PRSOM. Not to mention the fact that Britain will be able to decide which regulations apply to it and which don't again.
 
 
 
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