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    (Original post by ibzombie96)
    The term '******' is/was used in a perjorative way towards black people. As was 'cracker', though that term has a locational aspect as well.

    And by even bringing up these two terms, you've set up a side-discussion with little relevance to the issue. You seem to give the impression that racial prejudice expressed towards white people is more acceptable in itself than the same behaviour directed to a black person.
    it's not acceptable at all, it's just not as bad
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    (Original post by mangala)
    it's not acceptable at all, it's just not as bad
    ...yeah, that's what I said. 'More acceptable'. Not the most critical of thinkers, then.

    So why is racial prejudice against one person bad but racial prejudice against another person not as bad.
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    (Original post by ibzombie96)
    ...yeah, that's what I said. 'More acceptable'. Not the most critical of thinkers, then.

    So why is racial prejudice against one person bad but racial prejudice against another person not as bad.
    because black people are oppressed, white people are not. do u think it's worse to call a straight person a hetero or a gay person a ******?
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    (Original post by ibzombie96)
    Smart enough to back down. Not smart enough to win.
    Smart enough to recognise someone who thinks they are intelligent when they aren't
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    (Original post by sw651)
    Smart enough to recognise someone who thinks they are intelligent when they aren't
    Look mate, you made a stupid comment that others have picked you up on aswell. You either thought we needed reminding that babies were born in their..umm..birthday suits, or you thought that we genuinely thought babies hold cash as they exit their mothers. Whatever you were thinking, you weren't thinking particularly intelligently.
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    (Original post by mangala)
    because black people are oppressed, white people are not. do u think it's worse to call a straight person a hetero or a gay person a f aggot?
    This is exactly the problem. By using the structural definition of racism - that black people are to an extent oppressed on a societal level (which I agree with) - and using it as ammunition to defend independent acts of black-on-white racial prejudice, you creating a dangerous moral inequivalence. If a black person prevents me from entering a shop, that is exactly as bad as a white person preventing a black person from entering a shop, and the backdrop of institutionalised/societal racism should have no impact on comparing the two independent acts.

    And you've given me the same question as before. Earlier it was 'n1gger' and 'crackers', and now it's 'hetero' and 'f aggot'. Before I answer this (for the second time, by the way), you should change the proposition. The term 'hetero' is clearly inoffensive as it is essentially a literal description of a straight person's sexuality. The term 'f aggot', however, is objectively perjorative, hating, and insulting. So the proposition should have been: What's worse, a straight man beating up a gay man for his sexuality, or a gay man beating up a straight man for his sexuality? The answer is that neither is worse. They are both terrible acts, and the homophobia within society does not one bit make a gay man morally superior for attacking the straight man because of his sexuality.
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    (Original post by mangala)
    Should people who went to public school actually be allowed to become politicians? They were born rich, what do they actually know about the way the world works?

    Hint: there's only one correct answer and that's no
    The only people who should be allowed to be come politicians are the ones that are elected by the electorate......

    Oh look that's the current system.

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    Should people who went to state schools actually be allowed to be politicians? What a ridiculous question.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    The only people who should be allowed to be come politicians are the ones that are elected by the electorate......

    Oh look that's the current system.

    /thread


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    house of lords m8
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    (Original post by ibzombie96)
    This is exactly the problem. By using the structural definition of racism - that black people are to an extent oppressed on a societal level (which I agree with) - and using it as ammunition to defend independent acts of black-on-white racial prejudice, you creating a dangerous moral inequivalence. If a black person prevents me from entering a shop, that is exactly as bad as a white person preventing a black person from entering a shop, and the backdrop of institutionalised/societal racism should have no impact on comparing the two independent acts.

    And you've given me the same question as before. Earlier it was 'n1gger' and 'crackers', and now it's 'hetero' and 'f aggot'. Before I answer this (for the second time, by the way), you should change the proposition. The term 'hetero' is clearly inoffensive as it is essentially a literal description of a straight person's sexuality. The term 'f aggot', however, is objectively perjorative, hating, and insulting. So the proposition should have been: What's worse, a straight man beating up a gay man for his sexuality, or a gay man beating up a straight man for his sexuality? The answer is that neither is worse. They are both terrible acts, and the homophobia within society does not one bit make a gay man morally superior for attacking the straight man because of his sexuality.
    i never said anything deeper than just insulting a person on the basis of their ethnicity. you are gonna have to do a little bit of independent research before u can understand what im trying to say pally mate pal lad mate
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    (Original post by mangala)
    i never said anything deeper than just insulting a person on the basis of their ethnicity. you are gonna have to do a little bit of independent research before u can understand what im trying to say pally mate pal lad mate
    Ah, you're trolling

    Gotta say, you genuinely had me haha

    Well played!
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    (Original post by mangala)
    Should people who went to public school actually be allowed to become politicians? They were born rich, what do they actually know about the way the world works?

    Hint: there's only one correct answer and that's no
    There is no reason why people at public schools cannot be politicians. Despite them coming from the middle and upper classes, it doesn't mean that we should prevent them from being politicians as that's absolutely preposterous. Instead, i think politics needs to be promoted to people from the lower classes so that we can live in a society which isn't dominated by the wealthy and the government would be a more accurate representation of people in society e.g. the working class.
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    (Original post by MalayHKG)
    There is no reason why people at public schools cannot be politicians. Despite them coming from the middle and upper classes, it doesn't mean that we should prevent them from being politicians as that's absolutely preposterous. Instead, i think politics needs to be promoted to people from the lower classes so that we can live in a society which isn't dominated by the wealthy and the government would be a more accurate representation of people in society e.g. the working class.
    i agree m8y
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    That's like saying should poor people be able too go to uni
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    (Original post by mangala)
    house of lords m8
    House of Lords can only ask parliament to amend legislation.

    Parliament can do what it likes, the point still stands


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    (Original post by paul514)
    House of Lords can only ask parliament to amend legislation.

    Parliament can do what it likes, the point still stands


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    they can reject legislation too, as shown with the tax credits bill (in this case it was a good thing, though)
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    (Original post by mangala)
    they can reject legislation too, as shown with the tax credits bill (in this case it was a good thing, though)
    They didn't reject it they don't have that power they simply sent it back to the commons to 'look again'.

    Osbourne didn't want to

    1. Risk a vote in parliament as there were conservative rebels

    2. Use up too much political capital on legislation which is pointless in a couple of years when universal credit is fully rolled out.

    As a final point it House of Commons has many different procedures to put legislation through.

    The lords literally has no power if parliament wants something done


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    i think they're should be a limit

    its good to see people like alan johnson, john prescott...people who are just not from that sort of group
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    (Original post by xxvine)
    i think they're should be a limit

    its good to see people like alan johnson, john prescott...people who are just not from that sort of group
    *I *there *It's *Alan *Johnson *John *Prescott *aren't from
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