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    is terrorism not intimidating and killing people for the something you belive is right? eg cheap oil, control over as many things as possible
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    (Original post by jumpunderaboat)
    Assuming we are only refering to the "democratic west" its the public who chose their leaders.
    and obviously the leaders of many other countries along with their own
    p.s. does it make any difference whether Tony would've been there or some other guy?
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    (Original post by jumpunderaboat)
    Assuming we are only refering to the "democratic west" its the public who chose their leaders.
    then you say democratic west do you include england, in which case its wrong since everything england does is in the name of the queen and she is NOT democraticly elected, so therefor technicly we are not democratic
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    (Original post by dmitrij_savicki)
    is terrorism not intimidating and killing people for the something you belive is right? eg cheap oil, control over as many things as possible

    well the price of my petrol has gome up so how does that work?

    and as for control if its control they want why r they willing to withdraw and will withdraw when safe to do so... the mistake of coming out to early has already been made once.
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    (Original post by Lee86)
    well the price of my petrol has gome up so how does that work?

    and as for control if its control they want why r they willing to withdraw and will withdraw when safe to do so... the mistake of coming out to early has already been made once.
    the price of petrol has only gone up because they dont have full control like they want, and as for willing to withdraw wen its safe to do so, well they decide wen its safe, so safe for them will mean wen the person they want is in power(president of iraq)
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    the price of petrol has gone up because of the increased demand in china and terrorists incidenets in saudia arabia which you might of noticed isnt under the control of the USA

    and England is democratic, the queen is mearly a figure head, she has no say in terms of policy adopted by the country
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    (Original post by Speciez99)
    the price of petrol has gone up because of the increased demand in china and terrorists incidenets in saudia arabia which you might of noticed isnt under the control of the USA

    and England is democratic, the queen is mearly a figure head, she has no say in terms of policy adopted by the country
    the price of oil has been goin up not just recently , but over many years and althought the queen is a figure head, technicly speaking makes her incharge
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    (Original post by dmitrij_savicki)
    althought the queen is a figure head, technicly speaking makes her incharge
    no it doesn't
    what evidence do you have for that statement
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    so would you say the imposing of a certain culture on a country is a form of terroism?
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    (Original post by Lee86)
    so would you say the imposing of a certain culture on a country is a form of terroism?
    who is that addressed to? and who on this earth imposes a culture on another country? and what evidence do you have to justify it if you think they do to, anyone who answer that
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    (Original post by Speciez99)
    no it doesn't
    what evidence do you have for that statement
    well the fact that everything is done in the qeens name, for example court cases is criminal are allways R v ...., so the queen v someone
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    (Original post by Speciez99)
    who is that addressed to? and who on this earth imposes a culture on another country? and what evidence do you have to justify it if you think they do to, anyone who answer that
    im referring to all forgein people living in britain all muslim, jews, french.... all of those people who come to this country and rather than embrasing English culture try to impose theirs own on England
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    (Original post by Lee86)
    im referring to all forgein people living in britain all muslim, jews, french.... all of those people who come to this country and rather than embrasing English culture try to impose theirs own on England
    well actually how do you know all 'those' people impose their cultures? i am russian and i dont impose **** all on england
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    (Original post by dmitrij_savicki)
    well actually how do you know all 'those' people impose their cultures? i am russian and i dont impose **** all on england
    EXACTLY and so how then can u claim that ALL of british people are terrorist because of the actions of one man ( well maby a few ) and these action are yet to be proven to be anything more than a mistake..
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    (Original post by Lee86)
    EXACTLY and so how then can u claim that ALL of british people are terrorist because of the actions of one man ( well maby a few ) and these action are yet to be proven to be anything more than a mistake..
    because that man is bringing the country as a whole to war, he isnt just declairing war iraq againts blair, is he ?
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    (Original post by dmitrij_savicki)
    because that man is bringing the country as a whole to war, he isnt just declairing war iraq againts blair, is he ?
    how are his actions terroist?
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    (Original post by Lee86)
    how are his actions terroist?
    well since under his comands the army went in to iraq and intimidated and killed inocent people, how can this be justified oh yeah by the wmd?
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    (Original post by dmitrij_savicki)
    we are intimidating all those people in iraq by coming to they country and trying to take control and run their country in the way we want with out their say. And why did we start the war on iraq? the only answer is oil, since the counrty was peacefull
    Peaceful country? I'm pretty sure a few Kurds would have something to say about that, amongst other Iraqi citizens.
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    (Original post by Zapsta)
    Peaceful country? I'm pretty sure a few Kurds would have something to say about that, amongst other Iraqi citizens.
    well there was more peace at the time, then there is now. what can you actualy say to justify the war?
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    (Original post by dmitrij_savicki)
    well there was more peace at the time, then there is now. what can you actualy say to justify the war?
    That a large number of people in Iraq were constantly living in fear of being killed by their own leader? That as much as a word against him, if it got back to the wrong person, would result in death? That Hussein didn't just kill people but torture them, with recorded activities including the removal of ears and being strung up by the testicals? That even his own party members weren't safe? And that if you wanted out, the chances are that your passport would have been removed long ago so you didn't really have an option? I think that's a pretty good reason for going to war with a country. Next stop, Zimbabwe.
 
 
 
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