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    (Original post by hippydude126)
    Look guys, a feminist state wouldn't look like a scene from a dystopian Margaret Atwood novel. The main difference would be the dismantling of the patriarchy.
    Could you prove that one exists in the first place? Also, define patriarchy.

    (Original post by hippydude126)
    men would not feel pressured into hyper-masculinity
    Prove that men are pressured in the first place. And why do you assume that masculinity is an issue? Flip the wording and listen to how ridiculous this sentence sounds.
    women would not feel pressured into hyper-femininity
    (Original post by hippydude126)
    and neither gender
    I think you've just committed blasphemy...

    (Original post by hippydude126)
    there would be no pay gap
    There isn't one to begin with. It is a myth.

    (Original post by hippydude126)
    Someone please tell me how living in the Islamic State would be preferable?
    I get to marry more than one person, as many as I want as long as I can take care of them.
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    (Original post by BobbyFlay)
    Could you prove that one exists in the first place? Also, define patriarchy.


    Prove that men are pressured in the first place. And why do you assume that masculinity is an issue? Flip the wording and listen to how ridiculous this sentence sounds.
    women would not feel pressured into hyper-femininity

    I think you've just committed blasphemy...


    There isn't one to begin with. It is a myth.


    I get to marry more than one person, as many as I want as long as I can take care of them.
    I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINION. PROVE IT.

    I feel like you perhaps aren't ready for marriage yet.
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINION. PROVE IT.
    Are you saying that you have no evidence to back up your opinions?
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    (Original post by BobbyFlay)
    Are you saying that you have no evidence to back up your opinions?
    *grabs popcorn* this will be fun
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    For both societies having more female CEOs would be a bigger issue than FGM.
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    A feminist place sounds like more fun
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    Feminist state. Islamic sharia law is a tad too strict for my liking.
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    So if ur rather live in an islamic state are you saying youd rather live in a place were isis kills innocent vunerable people in horrible gruesome ways causing mass immigration than one were women are equal to men? I know some feminstist arnt actually feminists there just seeking attention but thats only a minority.
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    Could be worse. Imagine a combination of those.
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    Feminist state. It depends on the "type" of feminists. I wouldn't like a state where everything is "gender neutral."
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    Depends. Are we talking crazy radical tumblr feminists who believe you can't be sexist towards men or w/e they're harping on about rn?

    Because I'd rather jump into the ocean and drown rather than face either of the two options.

    Buuuuuut, if they're normal feminists who want true equality between genders, then eh. I'd settle with a feminist state.
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    (Original post by BobbyFlay)
    Are you saying that you have no evidence to back up your opinions?
    Well, of course not. My opinions are things I think, but also that I acknowledge to be neither a known truth nor proveable.

    For example I know that evolution is real. This is not my opinion, this is a known truth. I know that the square root of 2 is an irrational number. This is not my opinion, this is proveable.

    If I were to try put forward an argument I would try to back this up with reasonable evidence depending on the context, but of course I don't do this for every argument I make because there isn't enough time in the day.

    But if I state an opinion? No, why on earth would I feel the need to back up my opinions with evidence?



    Anyway, more to the point, what are you talking about? Which opinion are you wanting evidence for? That you aren't ready for marriage? Because that's the only opinion I put forward...
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    (Original post by Bazlehman)
    For both societies having more female CEOs would be a bigger issue than FGM.
    I'm not sure I follow. Could you explain?
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    (Original post by Lannew1)
    So if ur rather live in an islamic state are you saying youd rather live in a place were isis kills innocent vunerable people in horrible gruesome ways causing mass immigration than one were women are equal to men? I know some feminstist arnt actually feminists there just seeking attention but thats only a minority.
    ISIS isn't even a proper Islamic state.
    An Islamic state doesn't kill innocent vulnerable people.
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    I'm not sure I follow. Could you explain?
    A muslim society really wouldn't want a female CEOs and wouldn't really care about the suffering caused by FGM.
    A feminist society really would want female CEOs and would care far more about it about it than they would FGM.

    Feminists don't care about women in places where they're genuinely oppressed, and have nothing left to fight for here, but still requiring an outlet to express their hormone induced madness and need to be a victim, so campaign for on such nonsense issues as the pay of female movie stars, as well as just making things up. The only solution is to deprive women who begin to show feminist leanings of books or access to the internet. Rather than correcting their faulty ideas, books will give feminists more words and phrases with which to express their madness, giving the appearance of their ideas soundness to the easily swindled. It was the same with Hitler. Books made him worse. If this fails then the only solution is banishment of feminists or death by throwing down a well. I'm a bit drunk so the grammers not so good, but trust me my words posses violent soundness.
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    (Original post by HAnwar)
    ISIS isn't even a proper Islamic state.
    An Islamic state doesn't kill innocent vulnerable people.
    Neither should any other state, but here we are...

    Just because it doesn't fit your description of Islamic does not mean it is not true under the definition held by significant groups of people, and I'm not talking about UKIPpers, I mean every day people who see ISIS as being a state fighting in the name of Islam. And they are, they fight in the name of their interpretation of Islam just as you presumably believe in your interpretation of Islam, or Protestant Christians believe in that interpretation while the Westboro Baptist Church believes in another. It's the same with people talking about Feminism in this thread, yes the ideal is Feminism means the equality of men and women, but to a large proportion of people Feminism means the advancement of rights of women, but not necessarily of men to the same level which would be egalitarianism, a name which is a bit more neutral than Feminism.
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    (Original post by Bazlehman)
    A muslim society... wouldn't really care about the suffering caused by FGM.
    A feminist society really would want female CEOs and would care far more about it about it than they would FGM.
    To provide a little balance, let's follow along with your method of characterising groups of people according to your perception of the worst subsections within those groups.

    Another similarly sweeping and damning statement would then be that a Christian society wouldn't care about the suffering caused by FGM either.
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    It's the same thing.


    Annoying and annoying.
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    Islamic state, already packed my bags and moved to one for a few years, sue me
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    Theocratic state always, without fail, abuse the people who live beneath them. They attack any and every minority group they can think of. Theocracies are always totalitarian.

    The virtues or lack thereof of a feminist state would depend on which form of feminism we are referring to, but anything is better than theocracy, it doesn't even matter which religion it is. Church and state have proven repeatedly that they simply shouldn't be together.
 
 
 
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