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    adolf hitler who was chancellor of germany 1933-1945 was responsible for killing 11 million people how could the german people and the world let him murder 11 million
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    Yes.
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    (Original post by erika foster)
    adolf hitler who was chancellor of germany 1933-1945 was alleged to have been responsible for killing 11 million people 5-6 million jews and 5-6 million others but not taking into account the german military dead and the war he started, but since no one cam actually verify or prove the 11 million figure did he really kill 11 million or was it a hoax
    If they say it's 11 million then that's what we go by. If, however, you're not willing to accept the figure and believe it to be false then that is your own choice.
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    (Original post by erika foster)
    adolf hitler who was chancellor of germany 1933-1945 was responsible for killing 11 million people how could the german people and the world let him murder 11 million
    Where does that number come from?
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Where does that number come from?
    sites about the holocaust
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    If you're a traveler, you can answer this question very simply: Go to Dachau or any of the major concentration camps. Look at the literally miles and miles of barbed wire used to keep these prisoners in.

    There are only three options:

    1) The Germans were a stupid and inefficient people, creating a vast camp for a comparatively tiny group of people.

    I do not believe this one. You can say a lot about the Nazis - Stupid and inefficient are not things that spring to mind.

    2) They were incredibly generous hosts, granting vast tracts of land to those they imprisoned.

    Look at the pictures of those they rescued. Do they look like they were treated generously? If not, this is probably not the reason.

    3) They killed millions.

    Those three options are all that you can have. If you do not believe the accounts of the survivors or the recovered German records(The Nazis were meticulous record-keepers), if you do not believe the soldiers who rescued them or the accounts of the liberation - If all those things are too little, it is unlikely this will convince you. However, logically, if you visit the camp, the only thing you can draw from it is the awe and terror as you realize just how vast these death-camps are.
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    (Original post by erika foster)
    sites about the holocaust
    Which one(s)? I always heard about the six million jews (a number that I do not believe btw) but who were the other 5 million.
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    (Original post by erika foster)
    adolf hitler who was chancellor of germany 1933-1945 was responsible for killing 11 million people how could the german people and the world let him murder 11 million
    Well no, he did not personally kill anyone. The Nazis did.
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    (Original post by ThatOldGuy)
    If you're a traveler, you can answer this question very simply: Go to Dachau or any of the major concentration camps. Look at the literally miles and miles of barbed wire used to keep these prisoners in.

    There are only three options:

    1) The Germans were a stupid and inefficient people, creating a vast camp for a comparatively tiny group of people.

    I do not believe this one. You can say a lot about the Nazis - Stupid and inefficient are not things that spring to mind.

    2) They were incredibly generous hosts, granting vast tracts of land to those they imprisoned.

    Look at the pictures of those they rescued. Do they look like they were treated generously? If not, this is probably not the reason.

    3) They killed millions.

    Those three options are all that you can have. If you do not believe the accounts of the survivors or the recovered German records(The Nazis were meticulous record-keepers), if you do not believe the soldiers who rescued them or the accounts of the liberation - If all those things are too little, it is unlikely this will convince you. However, logically, if you visit the camp, the only thing you can draw from it is the awe and terror as you realize just how vast these death-camps are.
    I don't think she's questioning that they killed millions; merely whether they killed 11 million. I'm not an expert on operating death camps but I'd have thought that these camps would need to be fairly massive whether their output was 2 million or 11 million.

    If the Germans were such meticulous record keepers it should be fairly easy to count 11 million names off their lists. No such lists exist that I am aware of - not accounting for 11 million people.
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    It doesn't matter really. He killed himself and that's the most important thing he ever did.
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    (Original post by ThatOldGuy)
    If you're a traveler, you can answer this question very simply: Go to Dachau or any of the major concentration camps. Look at the literally miles and miles of barbed wire used to keep these prisoners in.

    There are only three options:

    1) The Germans were a stupid and inefficient people, creating a vast camp for a comparatively tiny group of people.

    I do not believe this one. You can say a lot about the Nazis - Stupid and inefficient are not things that spring to mind.

    2) They were incredibly generous hosts, granting vast tracts of land to those they imprisoned.

    Look at the pictures of those they rescued. Do they look like they were treated generously? If not, this is probably not the reason.

    3) They killed millions.

    Those three options are all that you can have. If you do not believe the accounts of the survivors or the recovered German records(The Nazis were meticulous record-keepers), if you do not believe the soldiers who rescued them or the accounts of the liberation - If all those things are too little, it is unlikely this will convince you. However, logically, if you visit the camp, the only thing you can


    draw from it is the awe and terror as you realize just how vast these death-camps are.
    is saying less were killed not believing he carried genoicide no read the readcrosss
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    1. 11 million people were killed during the Holocaust (1.1 million children). 6 million of those victims were Jewish. Other groups targeted by the Nazis were Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, disabled people, and Roma.


    https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts...bout-holocaust (Source)
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    Many documents were lost or destroyed in the final phases of the war, it wouldn't be surprising to find out they had burnt documents containing incriminating evidence. Remember that the holocaust is not just extermination camps but deaths during forced labour, mass murder in occupied territories by the Einsatzgruppen and forced marches during the German retreat.
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    The German people were brainwashed into believing the final solution was a good thing, that the undesirables must go. The Nazis also used terror tactics to stop anyone thinking any differently. It was very much like a cult, they were under his control.
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    Crazy conspiracy theorists say the Zionists in America purposely let the Holocaust happen so that the state of Israel could be formed. I don't really believe in that, but once an incident takes place a thousand theories can arise as to why it may have happened.
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    monica seles said in a swedish tv interview that 200,000-300,000 jews died
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    (Original post by Mizzy.Hyde)
    1. 11 million people were killed during the Holocaust (1.1 million children). 6 million of those victims were Jewish. Other groups targeted by the Nazis were Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, disabled people, and Roma.


    https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts...bout-holocaust (Source)
    I'm going to challenge this.

    First of all, let's start with the 6 million jews.

    There used to be a plaque at Auschwitz recording 4 million deaths in that camp. It was replaced in 1990 with a new plaque recording 1.5 million deaths. If the six million number included the 4 million at Auchwitz then if the number of deaths at Auchwitz is reduced by 2.5 million then the total number of deaths must have been reduced to 3.5 million.

    Now, let's look at the others. If 11 million were killed and six million were jews then there should be 5 million others. If I look at your list (Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, disabled people, and Roma) I find:

    There were about 1400 JW killed
    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005394

    There were about no more than 15'000 homosexuals killed
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persec...ntration_camps

    There were possibly as many as 220,000 Roma killed
    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005219

    There were perhaps as many as 200,000 handicapped people killed
    http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/art...uleId=10007683

    That tots up to 436,400 people, not 5 million.
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    If you've studied Nazi Germany you'd know that it was in fact SS officials who wanted to impress Hitler, and came up with the idea of extermination camps to do this.
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    (Original post by ParadisePursuit)
    The German people were brainwashed into believing the final solution was a good thing, that the undesirables must go. The Nazis also used terror tactics to stop anyone thinking any differently. It was very much like a cult, they were under his control.
    This is why the Holocaust needs to be rooted into education

    The Germans did not believe the final solution was a good thing, the vast majority didn't know what was happening.

    The Final Solution was brought about from the expansion into the East, thus increasing the number of 'inferiors' and Jews. Originally the plan was to turn these people into slaves, but there were too many and the ghettos holding them were failing. The only possible way to deal with them, with the ever increasing 'inferior' numbers was genocide.

    The Final Solution was agreed on in secret, without Hitler. There is some debate whether even Hitler actually requested the genocide. The German people voted for the Nazis a decade before the genoise actually took place, they did not foresee it and most condemned it when they heard about it.

    Obviously there were some rumours and intelligence, but the vast majority didn't have a clue.
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    (Original post by erika foster)
    monica seles said in a swedish tv interview that 200,000-300,000 jews died
    there you go with your monica seles already
 
 
 
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