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Questions about and legal implications of civil partnerships

Thanks to this government's wonderful ideas with regard to student finance, myself and my mate will get absolutely no help from the government at all, having to make all our money of off our own backs, where as our mate who lives with his unemployed mum with a doctor for a dad gets the full wealth of the grants on offer...

However I was looking at the student loan stuff more closely and basically if you are in or have ever been in a marriage/civil partnership then you become an independent student and so your parents income no longer plays a part. Essentially this could be worth in the region of £15,000 for both me and my mate (so a total of £30,000 in all)

Is there anything to stop us getting a civil partnership for a laugh and in a year's time just getting it dissolved? Would we be breaking any law by getting one, is there a law that says people getting married/civil partnershiped have to love each other/live together etc?

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Are you being serious?

Coz if you are, then you're a fool! And dont deserve any advice from anyone!
Reply 2
a fool, please tell me what's so stupid about it?
Reply 3
I don't think you are breaking a law. Most people don't want to do it becaus to them marriage 'means' something so they don't want to do it just for student finance. But if you can afford the fees for it then why not do it! Remember you'll have to pay (no idea how much) to get 'divorced'.
Well, your basically trying to scam some money because you dont want to work for it. That hand out would probably come from taxes which people like myself pay, so you're trying to, in all fairness rip me and every tax payer in this country off.
Reply 5
Could they not get the marriage annulled after a couple of years since they wouldn't have consumated the marriage? (I assume they won't have anyway)
Reply 6
it costs £100 to get a partnership... dunno about 'divorced' but can't imagine its more than a few hundred if there's no fighting over money (which there wouldn't be any)

i know it sounds a ludicrous idea, but it is the easiest way i can possibly think of to get £15,000..... being one of 4 kids i am getting no help at all with uni and i resent the fact that some people have wangled their way to getting the grants so thought i may as well do teh same....
Reply 7
Psyk
Could they not get the marriage annulled after a couple of years since they wouldn't have consumated the marriage? (I assume they won't have anyway)


i don't think there's any requirement for a civil partnership to be 'consumated'.... i was thinking of just getting a 'divorce' next summer but an annulment would probably be quicker, may have to find out if that still counts though as annulment makes it seem like it never happened....
Reply 8
Darren Marc
Well, your basically trying to scam some money because you dont want to work for it. That hand out would probably come from taxes which people like myself pay, so you're trying to, in all fairness rip me and every tax payer in this country off.


this would be exploiting a legal loophole, something lawyers and accountants do all the time..... i know people whose parents are self-employed and are basically doctoring the forms so they get as much as possible, that is scamming the government....

there's plenty of other people who don't work for the grant either, i personally believe all students should be entitled to it, it's not my fault that im born to parents who earn too much yet can't afford to give me the money....
lol

if you seriously believe that by staging a fake marriage you can gain £15,000 then go a head and good luck to you. This idea is pathetic, and you actually think someone is just gonna hand you £15,000 and thats it?

And what sort of excuse is "well everyone else scams the government so why shouldn't i"? Is that really what our society has come to, that you have to scam a damm marriage. Most students tend to get a job to support themselves. My friend worked for 3 years and saved throughout to pay for UNI, why can't you do the same thing?
Reply 10
look at the facts.

If I get married I become an indepedent student meanign my parents income no longer comes into it. That means I get £2765 a year grant from the government and £3000 a year from cambridge.... over three years that works out to £17295.... So no they wont hand it over in one lump sum, but over three years..... Not a fake marriage, it would be a legal one.... The idea is laughable yes but if you can spot the flaw in my logic please tell me....

Most students either get some help from their parents or some help from the government, i get neither......
shining777
but if you can spot the flaw in my logic please tell me....

Most students either get some help from their parents or some help from the government, i get neither......


What do you mean if i can spot the flaw? - its a damm fake marriage!!!! (which technically looks legal on paper)

And no, not all students get handouts from parents or government. Some work to get what they want! Thats called life!

Based on your arguement then, i can't afford a flat, dont mean i'm gonna get my girlfriend pregnant pretend shes a single mum, then get a council flat as a handout and live with her.
Reply 12
fair enough, i concede, its a bloody ridiculous idea but i dont like the idea of being stuck in £20k debt after uni :frown:
Hahaha, I think this post is hilarious. It sounds so ludicrous and crazy, but you go for it man! :p:

Just out of curiosity, does marriage/civil partnership actually mean anything to you? Do you think it's a big deal?
Reply 14
no i couldnt give a toss... both my parents have been divorced twice, ill just be getting my first in early....
It isn't really a debt. Most of it you might not have to pay off and that which you do is just taken out in the same way as a tax. Just get a ****ing job mate, most people have to.
Sorry to say this, but 95% of people on here are in the same situation as you. Having to pay that amount back.
Don't you think doing this makes you as bad as the people who just scam for money?
I think it is a fantastic idea. I cant help you on the legal aspects but just want to advise that you ensure you are fully informed before you go ahead with it so you both know where you stand and what you will do in the future - be careful as he is ur good friend now but he may not be later and there could be legal implications if the reason you went into the civil partnership were not the typical reasons.
If there is nothing legally that means you have to enter into a civil partnership because you love someone/are romantically interested in them then I dont even see how people can sit and judge you on TSR.
Good luck to you.
Reply 19
spacecowgirl89
Don't you think doing this makes you as bad as the people who just scam for money?


no better, but most rich people scam the taxman, this is no different