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Hello everyone,
having been rejected by both Oxford and the LSE I now face the question which of my 4 offers to read PPE I should put down (Warwick, Durham, Manchester, Exeter). As far as I can tell Warwick and Durham are clearly better than the other two...
In the long term (after a possible MSc/MA or a second undergraduate degree, always fancied engineering as well...), I'd like to end up working in management or strategy consulting, if possible for one of the top firms (McK, BCG, Bain, etc.). Which of Durham or Warwick do you think will give me better chances in this respect? Is it Warwick's good city links and new splendour or Durham's traditionally good reputation? I have been reading about the universities themselves in the respective forums, but couldn't find anything clear from a SC/MC perspective.
Or would you even recommend taking a gap year and have another stab at Oxford and the LSE next year, or isn't it worth it?

Thanks a lot in advance, and comments and opinions are very much appreciated.
HBK

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Are you dead set on that career?

If so, take a gap year.
Reply 2
Well, it's not like it's the only thing I'd ever want to do, but it would be a pretty good option in my opinion... So the chances from Warwick and Durham are very low?

Cheers,
HBK
Reply 3
if you're set on MBB, you have close to no chance with your options - a gap year sounds good if you - at 18 - know exactly what you want to do.
Reply 4
Go to Durham - but it will be hard.
why not warwick? doesn't it have a good rep with these firms.
Reply 6
My intuition is that Durham isn't on the radar, whereas Warwick will give them the impression that you have a brain. Go Warwick, or reapply. However, even at Oxford it's not easy to get into McK/Bain/BCG/Booze, be careful of putting all your eggs in one basket. Consider backup career plans too!
I think maths at warwick might register somewhere on the radar as a faint smudge. The rest are the particle specks around it that could be sandwich crumbs.

MCs take so few, they can afford to be more selective than the banks although the outright candidates are very similar in levels.
You could have a chance if you speak some random language. McKinsey were recruiting heavily for Greek-speakers at LSE for their Athens office.
Reply 9
President_Ben
Are you dead set on that career?

If so, take a gap year.

:ditto:

If you're not dead-set, Warwick's really good, and I'd definitely say above Durham. For most careers, it would be fine. For M/B/B, it pretty much has to be Oxbridge. Or you have to be exceptional (student union president, founded own company and did amazingly during uni, etc.).
Reply 10
President_Ben
I think maths at warwick might register somewhere on the radar as a faint smudge. The rest are the particle specks around it that could be sandwich crumbs.

MCs take so few, they can afford to be more selective than the banks although the outright candidates are very similar in levels.


Hehe a bit harsh don't you think? Although Warwick is no Oxbridge/LSE it is still a top uni.
Reply 11
shady lane
You could have a chance if you speak some random language. McKinsey were recruiting heavily for Greek-speakers at LSE for their Athens office.

Hm, I'd hardly consider German (native) and French as random... So bad luck there.
But thanks for everyone's answers, there seems to be no clear consensus of whether Warwick or Durham is the place to go... Is there anyone here working in the industry who might have some inside information?

Thanks
HBK
Heisman
Hehe a bit harsh don't you think?


No.

Although Warwick is no Oxbridge/LSE it is still a top uni.


Didn't I already explain this and my view on any bickering?
As for the Athens office, does this matter - really? I mean, standards there are lower. Along with pay, prestige etc.

Wanting to work for JP Morgan doesn't mean you should sell yourself short and work in the back office location in Bournemouth.


(no offense to those in the Athens office of McK or Bournemouth office in JPM, but you have to admit, the people in those offices are probably not the superstar employees of their firms)
Well the OP didn't say he had to be in London. If one really wanted to work in strategy consulting, I'd say having geographic mobility is an advantage. It's the career he wants, not prestige of London vs. a smaller city.

Also I don't think you can compare it to Bournemouth, as Athens is presumably the only McK office in Greece, and Athens is home to plenty of major shipping companies as well.
Reply 15
No brainer, Warwick all the way. At all the consulting interviews I went to, ~I maet a few Warwick people but not a single person from Durham. For MBBB they are totally of the radar, and the same applies for LEK, Roland Berger, Marakon......
Reply 16
I don´t know the situation in London, but my friend who works for MK in Prague had to sign a contract which says he can work all around the world (he spent a few months in San Salvador and some time in Italy). So I think you wouldn´t be stuck to one place... But as I said above, I dont know how it is in London.
Linc
I don´t know the situation in London, but my friend who works for MK in Prague had to sign a contract which says he can work all around the world (he spent a few months in San Salvador and some time in Italy). So I think you wouldn´t be stuck to one place... But as I said above, I dont know how it is in London.


The London office for McK, Bain, BCG are considered very serious ones where they really do want their best employees. Virtually all contracts with all international companies will include a clause that the company has the right to insist on relocating you as appropriate to business needs but they will assist you in relocating if it is for a suitably long period.
Reply 18
Thanks a lot everyone.
So a possible 1st from Warwick (difficult enough to get, I know) would be regarded less highly than a 2.1 from Oxford/LSE? Not good...

Does anyone if it's possible to change from 1st year Wwick/Dur into 2nd year Oxford? Or are the courses too different (I got a feeling it's the latter...).

Cheers,
HBK
HBK89
Thanks a lot everyone.
So a possible 1st from Warwick (difficult enough to get, I know) would be regarded less highly than a 2.1 from Oxford/LSE? Not good...


Most strat consultancies want a 1st or a very good 2.1. On the whole, you need to be somewhere in the top 25% of your class. Strat consultancy still has some relationship to academia in style of work so I can see why they would weigh on it relative to IB where the actual academic process is useless.

Does anyone if it's possible to change from 1st year Wwick/Dur into 2nd year Oxford?


You can't.