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Edexcel A2 C4 Mathematics June 2016 - Official Thread

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Original post by samb1234
Won't work unfortunately. If you search you can find a few people asking edexcel on twitter and facebook and they just regurgitate the pre written can't comment on specific models etc etc and just refer to that text i linked earlier with the regulations in


Yeah, but that's via twitter/blah blah/etc... I've had luck in the past with formally contacting them by email and explaining my issue (something about modules being offered in Jan) - worth a shot, at least.
Original post by Zacken
Send Edexcel an email (go on their website and look for their student support email or whatevs, ask me if you can't find it) with your centre number and the issue and ask them to get in contact with your centre or to send you an email/digital letter confirming the use of your calculator. Make sure to specify the model/make/features of it and give as much information on your centre as possible.


I emailed them on [email protected] which was forwarded to [email protected]

With the specs of the calculator, however I did not mention any information on my centre.

They replied back a few days ago with the JCQ guidelines document on calculators. :s-smilie: nothing about that specific model of calculator I mentioned though.

Original post by Student403
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-FX-991ESPLUS-SA-UH-FX-991ESPLUS-Scientific-Calculator/dp/B0034BAQS8?ie=UTF8&ref_=dp_ob_title_ceIt says on the page by the Casio DISTRIBUTOR that it is suitable for A-Level. Would your teachers accept this?Here on the Casio UK website it says it's ideal for all advanced studies



Original post by Ayman!
I swear that's such a huge disadvantage. People give C34 with GDCs and you can't use a scientific.My suggestion would be to full UMS it and show them who's boss :lol:


I'm currently using FX-82 ES, which is fine I guess for simple arithmetic, and It's a bonus for me as it has Natural display.

Nothing 'extra' on it though, such as solutions of quadratics / numeric calculus.

Original post by samb1234
It's from graham from edexcel's post about calculator's in 2015 btw, and yeah it is pretty stupid when there's literally nothing wrong with it



Yup i saw that post on Edexcel.com, it even mentions Graphical calculators are allowed, as you posted above. XD
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Original post by Zacken
Yeah, but that's via twitter/blah blah/etc... I've had luck in the past with formally contacting them by email and explaining my issue (something about modules being offered in Jan) - worth a shot, at least.


yeah definitely worth a shot, sounds like the centre are being pretty stupid tbh. One other option would be to get another calculator (which is legal) that does the same thing but looks different and isn't used as frequently, as the fx 991 es is very widely used and distinctively designed.
Original post by SaadKaleem
I emailed them on [email protected] which was forwarded to [email protected]

With the specs of the calculator, however I did not mention any information on my centre.

They replied back a few days ago with the JCQ guidelines document on calculators. :s-smilie: nothing about that specific model of calculator I mentioned though.






I'm currently using FX-82 ES, which is fine I guess for simple arithmetic, and It's a bonus for me as it has Natural display.

Nothing 'extra' on it though, such as solutions of quadratics / numeric calculus.




Yup i saw that post on Edexcel.com, it even mentions Graphical calculators are allowed, as you posted above. XD

The quadratics solver is very helpful in tight situations incase anything crops up. Thanks for the email. I'll send them one too and if they get back to me I'll let you know
Original post by Student403
The quadratics solver is very helpful in tight situations incase anything crops up. Thanks for the email. I'll send them one too and if they get back to me I'll let you know


Can be really helpful indeed, in panicky situations. Thanks :smile:
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Original post by SaadKaleem
Can be really helpful indeed, in panicky situations. Thanks for your concern. :smile:


No problem :smile: This absolutely grinds my gears :lol:
Original post by SaadKaleem
I emailed them on [email protected] which was forwarded to [email protected]

With the specs of the calculator, however I did not mention any information on my centre.

They replied back a few days ago with the JCQ guidelines document on calculators. :s-smilie: nothing about that specific model of calculator I mentioned though.


Yeah, I get what you mean - you emailed them asking if the calculator was okay; I'm talking about emailing them with a complaint that your centre is not following JCQ guidelines and it is hindering you, so give specifics about them not allowing you to use a calculator that is clearly permissible within the guidelines.

That said, FWIW, calculators are dumb and far from requisite you'll do fine without them anyway; I used a normal 82-MS for my exam (the one that you used to use in the year below IGCSE/GCSE, I rather like it lol) and only used my GDC for the occasional answer check and to write down my answers.
Original post by Zacken
Yeah, I get what you mean - you emailed them asking if the calculator was okay; I'm talking about emailing them with a complaint that your centre is not following JCQ guidelines and it is hindering you, so give specifics about them not allowing you to use a calculator that is clearly permissible within the guidelines.

That said, FWIW, calculators are dumb and far from requisite you'll do fine without them anyway; I used a normal 82-MS for my exam (the one that you used to use in the year below IGCSE/GCSE, I rather like it lol) and only used my GDC for the occasional answer check and to write down my answers.


Yeah I didn't make a formal "complaint", I just somewhat "asked" them.

Yeah exactly, I'm using the calculator which I used for my IGCSEs, I'm fine with it.

GDCs can be an advantage, but I guess I'll stick to manually sketching graphs when required and using my brain.
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for the subsititution method how would I know which part to substitute U with?:

e.g. sin3xcosx which one would I make U equal to?

thanks
Original post by imran_
for the subsititution method how would I know which part to substitute U with?:

e.g. sin3xcosx which one would I make U equal to?

thanks


(Assuming your question is sin(3x)cos(x)sin(3x)cos(x) and not sin3(x)cos(x)sin^{3}(x)cos(x))

If you go to the formula book you'll see a neat formula that goes by

sinA+sinB=2sin(A+B2)cos(AB2)sinA + sinB = 2sin(\dfrac{A+B}{2})cos(\dfrac{A-B}{2})

I'd recommend you use this formula as you have sin3xcosx dx\displaystyle \int \mathrm{sin}3x \mathrm{cos}x \ \mathrm{d}x

Where 3x=A+B2 3x = \dfrac{A+B}{2}

And x=AB2 x = \dfrac{A-B}{2}

Also note not to forget to divide both sides of the equation by 2

12(sinA+sinB)=sin(A+B2)cos(AB2)\dfrac{1}{2}(sinA + sinB) = sin(\dfrac{A+B}{2})cos(\dfrac{A-B}{2})

As

12(sinA+sinB)=sin(3x)cos(x)\dfrac{1}{2}(sinA + sinB) = sin(3x)cos(x)
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Original post by imran_
for the subsititution method how would I know which part to substitute U with?:

e.g. sin3xcosx which one would I make U equal to?

thanks


Do you mean sinx to the power 3 or sin(3x)?

If you have (sinx)^3, consider the scenario if you tried u=sinx and u=cosx. I think they both can give you an answer though.

Spoiler

Original post by imran_
for the subsititution method how would I know which part to substitute U with?:

e.g. sin3xcosx which one would I make U equal to?

thanks


If that is sin(3x)cos(x) then you could use the factor formulae (I think it's called that or addition formulae) to turn it into something else.
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Original post by Craig1998
Do you mean sinx to the power 3 or sin(3x)?

If you have (sinx)^3, consider the scenario if you tried u=sinx and u=cosx. I think they both can give you an answer though.

Spoiler



the question was sin3xcosx but however this has answered my question on what to make U equal to. Thank you :biggrin:
(2x + 1 2/x+ 5/x 3 ) dx
= [x^2+ x − 2 lnx + 5 ln x- 3]
= (4 + 2 2 ln 2 + 0) (1 + 1 + 0 + 5 ln 2)
= 4 7 ln 2


with limits of

2
S
1

how does the above make sense (copied from the mark scheme)

i get (4+2-2ln2+5ln1) - (1+1+2ln1+5ln(-2) )

solomon D c4 q3 btw
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Original post by tazza ma razza
(2x + 1 2/x+ 5/x 3 ) dx
= [x^2+ x − 2 lnx + 5 ln x- 3]
= (4 + 2 2 ln 2 + 0) (1 + 1 + 0 + 5 ln 2)
= 4 7 ln 2


with limits of

2
S
1

how does the above make sense (copied from the mark scheme)

i get (4+2-2ln2+5ln1) - (1+1+2ln1+5ln(-2) )

solomon D c4 q3 btw


You've written down the same thing as the markscheme; remember that ln(1) = 0 and when you integrate 1/x you get ln |x| not ln x. So your final number should be 5ln|-2| = 5 ln 2.
Original post by Zacken
You've written down the same thing as the markscheme; remember that ln(1) = 0 and when you integrate 1/x you get ln |x| not ln x. So your final number should be 5ln|-2| = 5 ln 2.


oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yh kk i get you, totally missed that its the modulus (despite all the fp1 lol) thanks
Original post by tazza ma razza
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yh kk i get you, totally missed that its the modulus (despite all the fp1 lol) thanks


Awesome! No problem.
do we need to know arithmetic and geometric formulae?



IGNORE - in formulae book
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Im Confused abut the calculators
is the casio FX911ES plus allowed in the edexcel examinations for C2/3/4?
Original post by imran_
Im Confused abut the calculators
is the casio FX911ES plus allowed in the edexcel examinations for C2/3/4?


Yeah, it'll be fine

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