The Student Room Group

Scroll to see replies

Reply 1
We had a talk on SGU at the Vetsix week year before last...I have to say it didn't go down particularly well because of the American teaching methods, which is all I'll say. It's worth researching a bit.
Reply 2
I looked into it a couple of years ago as they had some really good scholarships on offer, which as a graduate were potentially going to be worth it! The thing that put me off was having to sit the RCVS external vet exam in order to work over here post graduation, it scared me that I would do 4 years and then discover I wasn't able to pass! You can do your final year back here in the UK so that would help :smile:

Good luck with it all though and enjoy the sunshine if you go :biggrin:

Beth
Reply 3
Yeah I remember at vetsim there was a talk on it and they seemed verging on deserate to recruit people and there's very few UK vets who've been there and passed the exam to practice here, which is worrying. Plus it only has like 1 cow, 2 dogs and a goat or somthing like that lol.
Please no vets of grenada take offence :smile:
Reply 4
Yeh its the height of crap! I know what you mean about desparate. Plus the guy giving the talks really got on my nerves cos he was so up himself!!!!! "Oh dont worry about the £80k a year fees, just get your parents to remortgage the house or give you your inheritance early!" Some people have no idea!!!!!!!

Sorry, rant over :p:
Reply 5
ah well at least i spend my weekends divings and tanning, and can work in the usa which is where the money is ha ha.
Reply 6
no seriously, ive done my research and am prepared to put the work, if i can spend my university time in hot climate, i think it might be sucicidal to stay in the rain and cold with no holidays for 5 years. and the fees arnt that bad when you calculate them a whole lot cheaper than the usa, i wouldt just like to talk with anyone else interested.
Reply 7
Hmm.. there seems to be not such a great impression of that place here. Personally i think that place is wonderfull. (yes lol, i had the talk at vetlink,). Visit thier website, it makes you fall in love in with that place. I love the idea of travelling and being in different countries so it does appeal to me alot.... however....

the money,,,,

No way if i pay my leg and arm for it can i afford it. Even if i like won a scholorship (i would never) could i even then stil afford it. It would cost a bomb to live out there. Fee's/ rent/ clothes / food/ travel... the very expensive text books, (which have been proposed to be roughly to come at 100-300 dollors per month) the list just goes on.

but hey are you going for it??/ Good luck with it.:smile::smile: ill try not to be jelous of you... :s-smilie:
Reply 8
;laugh;
Reply 9
yeah!! That guy was a bit...funny. Has everyone from Vetsix still got their St George's rucksacks? hehehe

I personally couldn't deal with a climate like that. Anything above 25 C over here and I can't cope, I'm really not a hot weather person...
anyway, good luck to you if that's what you're after
Reply 10
NO DON'T GO THERE!! Sorry, but I am very against the place. Firstly you will get a rubbish qualification that nobody recognises (it isn't even well regarded in the USA) and the chance of passing the RCVS exam as said before is very low. Secondly, you could just see by the sleezball giving the talk at Vetsix (talk about desperate measures when you have to actively recruit for a vet school), that the University is set up as a money making enterprise and that it is a complete rip off. I know we get our tuition fees paid for by the government but even so, what they pay for us (and what graduates pay) is nowhere near the amount St. George's charge. Thirdly, if you are capable of getting into a UK vet school, then there is no need to bother even applying there. They have very 'interesting' entry standards i.e. if you pay enough they'll let you in. Do you really want to be surrounded by spoilt, rich, American kids? (I'm very sorry if I'm offending anyone who goes there and I'm by no means saying that everyone who goes there is like that but I feel very strongly about this...) Finally, I personally don't endorse their teaching methods. I realise that some animals have to die for any vet teaching, but as there is a shortage of animals on Grenada (no surprises there), all clinical teaching is done on healthy animals bred for the purpose, which are later put down after being made ill/injured for the students to practise on, instead of curing sick animals like in the UK schools.
Ok rant over lol - Sorry, I just have a BIG problem with St. Georges!
Reply 11
I totally agree! Plus, has anyone been getting weird ads on facebook for st georges? I cant seem to escape it!
Reply 12
It's the teaching using animals in that way bit that I disagreed with. That's not why I'm becoming a vet.
@ lessthanthree, that's what the guy who gave us the talk said. He said they use the animals then put them down.

You should have SEEN the reaction at Vetsix...the guy got really angry! then he started going on about how much money he had...

Totally not why I want to be a vet...anyway.

Yes I do get those adds. AND adds from Liverpool advertising 100% online masters degrees...!?
Reply 13
I'm sorry but ONLY people who are interested make a coment here.
Reply 14
Calm down dear, she was just commenting on an earlier post :p:
Reply 15
I quote two22 in this:

Firstly you will get a rubbish qualification that nobody recognises (it isn't even well regarded in the USA)
++ the degree is recognised by the USA and Canada (you just have to sit Board exams, which anyone working in the USA does even those who train over there, it is AVMA approved, which is more than can be said for half the UK institutions) it is recognised over here it is just that there have been so few graduates through their system sitting the RCVS exam so far that they cannot accredit as yet...just like Nottingham++

and the chance of passing the RCVS exam as said before is very low.
++if it is realy that hard then those at Nottingham should be worried...If you are taught well it is not impossible and if you are determined to be a vet I am sure you will pass, I know I would be worried about sitting another exam myself, but I am crap at exams (hence me doing vet med as a second degree) and they are not impossible and remember that most people sitting the exams are forgeiners who do not speak English as their first language so it is even harder for them++

that the University is set up as a money making enterprise and that it is a complete rip off. I know we get our tuition fees paid for by the government but even so, what they pay for us (and what graduates pay) is nowhere near the amount St. George's charge.
++this is not true and I am not sure what you think graduates pay but unless you are lucky enough to get a place at RVC/Nottingham for £3K a year the fees range from £1600-17500 per year as a graduate and you have all your living expenses etc on top++

Thirdly, if you are capable of getting into a UK vet school, then there is no need to bother even applying there.
++ok how many people do you know that get the grades and still don't get in? I know several. Places are damn competitive over here that being capable of getting in over here does not always get you a place!++

They have very 'interesting' entry standards i.e. if you pay enough they'll let you in. Do you really want to be surrounded by spoilt, rich, American kids? ++two22 I think you may have fun at any UK vet school then because there are a load of Americans studying over here (60 just in my year here in Edinburgh for starters). This is a rude assumption you make, not everyone from America or those doing it as a second degree is spoilt or rich by any means and ultimately those paying this much to do the course are making damn sure they pass in the end!++

Finally, I personally don't endorse their teaching methods. I realise that some animals have to die for any vet teaching, but as there is a shortage of animals on Grenada (no surprises there), all clinical teaching is done on healthy animals bred for the purpose, which are later put down after being made ill/injured for the students to practise on, instead of curing sick animals like in the UK schools.
++I am not too sure what you are getting at here, students final year is spent either in the USA, Canada or the UK at a vet school doing clinical stuff alongside thatschools own students.++


Finally I would like to say that this post was originally set up by Pinkhyppie for her to try and chat to those actually applying who have an interest in the place, not an area for others to get high and mighty and rant about why they think a course (they clearly know very little about) is 'crap'. Can we move on please and be constructive?!

As I said before, good luck and I wish anyone wanting to be a vet the best of luck in getting there whatever route you take. If you are determined enough you will make it :biggrin:
Reply 16
sarahbeth
I quote two22 in this:

Firstly you will get a rubbish qualification that nobody recognises (it isn't even well regarded in the USA)
++ the degree is recognised by the USA and Canada (you just have to sit Board exams, which anyone working in the USA does even those who train over there, it is AVMA approved, which is more than can be said for half the UK institutions) it is recognised over here it is just that there have been so few graduates through their system sitting the RCVS exam so far that they cannot accredit as yet...just like Nottingham++

and the chance of passing the RCVS exam as said before is very low.
++if it is realy that hard then those at Nottingham should be worried...If you are taught well it is not impossible and if you are determined to be a vet I am sure you will pass, I know I would be worried about sitting another exam myself, but I am crap at exams (hence me doing vet med as a second degree) and they are not impossible and remember that most people sitting the exams are forgeiners who do not speak English as their first language so it is even harder for them++


It isn't recognised over here, hence you have to take the RCVS exam. The RCVS has no intention of accrediting St. George's and has never said anything that indicates that it ever would. It has however said that if the Nottingham course covers all it's requirements (which is very likely as the vet school are not going to run a course that won't comply) then when the first year through graduates it will be assessed to see if their finals can count for admission to the RCVS. Therefore, the chance of Nottingham graduates haveing to take the RCVS exam is very small, so I don't think they should be worried.
I never said the exam was impossible but it has a 22% pass rate and you're only allowed to take it twice - I would call that hard. Neither of us actually knows what nationalities of people take the exam, but I would say that as they are planning to come and work in this country, their command of English would be very good anyway so I don't think language problems is the reason most people fail. (Also do you know the pass rate of the American board exam for St. George's graduates? My guess would be that it is lower than those from American vet schools.)

sarahbeth
that the University is set up as a money making enterprise and that it is a complete rip off. I know we get our tuition fees paid for by the government but even so, what they pay for us (and what graduates pay) is nowhere near the amount St. George's charge.
++this is not true and I am not sure what you think graduates pay but unless you are lucky enough to get a place at RVC/Nottingham for £3K a year the fees range from £1600-17500 per year as a graduate and you have all your living expenses etc on top++


I don't think you know how much it costs to go to St. George's but it is considerably more overall than graduates pay in the UK. I can't be bothered to look it up now but we were told at VETSIX and it was a very large sum of money. (Btw Sarah V, did you go to the Vetsix Xmas 2005?)

sarahbeth
Thirdly, if you are capable of getting into a UK vet school, then there is no need to bother even applying there.
++ok how many people do you know that get the grades and still don't get in? I know several. Places are damn competitive over here that being capable of getting in over here does not always get you a place!++


I didn't say capable of getting the grades, did I? I said capable of getting a PLACE i.e. if you are a good enough all rounder i.e. grades, interview, personal statement.

sarahbeth
They have very 'interesting' entry standards i.e. if you pay enough they'll let you in. Do you really want to be surrounded by spoilt, rich, American kids? ++two22 I think you may have fun at any UK vet school then because there are a load of Americans studying over here (60 just in my year here in Edinburgh for starters). This is a rude assumption you make, not everyone from America or those doing it as a second degree is spoilt or rich by any means and ultimately those paying this much to do the course are making damn sure they pass in the end!++


I have absolutely nothing against Americans. I simply put the word Americans in as 90% of St. Georges students are American, not because I think American is a synonym for spoilt and rich. I would imagine that the other nationalities there are equally spoilt and rich. (May I also add that a proportion of the students are there because they couldn't get in anywhere else)

sarahbeth
Finally, I personally don't endorse their teaching methods. I realise that some animals have to die for any vet teaching, but as there is a shortage of animals on Grenada (no surprises there), all clinical teaching is done on healthy animals bred for the purpose, which are later put down after being made ill/injured for the students to practise on, instead of curing sick animals like in the UK schools.
++I am not too sure what you are getting at here, students final year is spent either in the USA, Canada or the UK at a vet school doing clinical stuff alongside thatschools own students.++


Yes, I know the final year is done in the USA, Canada or the UK, but do you really think all their teaching animal free up until then? Clinical teaching isn't all just done in the final year!


sarahbeth
Finally I would like to say that this post was originally set up by Pinkhyppie for her to try and chat to those actually applying who have an interest in the place, not an area for others to get high and mighty and rant about why they think a course (they clearly know very little about) is 'crap'. Can we move on please and be constructive?!


I actually do know quite a bit about the course (I would argue more than you...) as I researched it after I was so horrified by the talk given by their representative at Vetsix. Tbh, I don't think anyone on TSR is applying there, so I don't think she/he is going to have much luck in getting positive comments about it. He/she posted her question/request in a public forum therefore they have to be prepared for everyone's opinions, both good and bad. In fact, if I were them, I would think very hard about applying there after a mainly negative reaction from a forum full of people who are either at vet school or have got places/are applying. Although, having said that, if they are serious about the tanning, scuba diving and making a lot of money (I don't think many go into vet med for the money - hopefully they were being sarcastic), maybe SGU is the place for them!
Reply 17
two22
It has however said that if the Nottingham course covers all it's requirements (which is very likely as the vet school are not going to run a course that won't comply) then when the first year through graduates it will be assessed to see if their finals can count for admission to the RCVS. Therefore, the chance of Nottingham graduates haveing to take the RCVS exam is very small, so I don't think they should be worried.


Well said, I was about to jump in with a nottingham defense.

If the OP wants to go to St Georges, by all means, it looks a nice place, but we're just trying to warn about pitfalls that the course might have, and saying any vet applicant should think carefully before selecting it over a vet school here if they got in. I remember in the early topics about if nottingham vet school was a good idea, there was a lot of criticism given about it as well as good things mentioned, you just have to do the research for yourself and look at the facts.
Reply 18
sorry to be picky sarah beth but as two22 pointed out, none of your arguments stand.

Pinkhyppie was asking about st georges, we gave our opinion, of which everyone is entitled to there own! Im going to Nottingham in september as I believe it is the best place for me and am confident about them getting accreditation, however I heard many negative things before I applied, as well as positive, and am grateful of that as it help me reach my decision by being well informed. If pinkhyppie wishes to hear only positive things then maybe talking to admissions people at st georges would be best. It seems pinkhyppie is very keen on going there and good luck! But everyone has opinions, it just so happens that most people really dont think its worth it.

NB Pinkhyppie, apologies for hijacking your thread but needed to be said, its up to you to form your own opinions cos at the end of the day its your life, your choice. Good luck to you!
Reply 19
thanks sarahbeth, i was asking for people interest in applying not for everyone opinions actually!