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English A1 SL, paper1

oka it's 8 37 my local time, so it's 6 37 GMT. English A1 discussion:party:

who did the prose? what did you write? how interesting was it? let's hear it.

I discussed (obviously following the guiding questions) diction, imagery, structure, and tone.
ideas I found: prestige, transformation of children into young adults, loneliness.

writer's attitude towards the Venice and the Venetians: she rejects it, criticizes it and judges it. you get the point:p:
anything else anyone include?

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Reply 1
Oh man I hate English with a passion I only took it because i had to have an A1 language, now im done with it for life lol, no more taking the piss out of books and analyzing stuff to oblivion.

Paper 1 i did the prose, with the poem I was like **** off with your watermelons lol, i did not get the poem one bit, from watermelons to horse chests....

The prose was also rather boring but understandable and the guiding questions were numerous so I had a lot to write about.

My structure basically went like this

Intro including Thesis
Use of vocabulary, its effect and why its done (answers a guiding question)
Use of contrast, its effect and why its done (answers a guiding question)
Imagery, its effect and why its done (answers a guiding question)
Structure, its effect and why its done (answers a guiding question)
Conclusion in which i tied it all up, answered the guiding questions in a short sentence and voila


Points i had also where the very linear growing up of children, the weird contrast like sickly intensity to demonstrate the magnitude of the love, tall dark buildings decorated with potted plants, colorful carnival against boring ships in background, inexplicable game yet she explains it.

Her attitude i found was that it was rather neutral since the positive aspects canceled out with the negatives but there was a certain amount of sarcasm
Reply 2
GRR missed out the point about the buildings.. discussed the image of the school not having a park opposed to the carnival though.. you know laughing children vs staying inside during break time...
I chose the prose because it was clear from the first read.. I knew it would take me about 15 minutes to fully understand the poem... took me about 10 minutes to plan and start writing tbh... and yea what's with thewatermelons?:rofl:
Reply 3
~Lc~
GRR missed out the point about the buildings.. discussed the image of the school not having a park opposed to the carnival though.. you know laughing children vs staying inside during break time...
I chose the prose because it was clear from the first read.. I knew it would take me about 15 minutes to fully understand the poem... took me about 10 minutes to plan and start writing tbh... and yea what's with thewatermelons?:rofl:


during the reading time i let out a gigle after just reading the poems title lol
Reply 4
I did the poem.

I couldn't care less about Venetian kids.

Plus, the poem was good in a sense that there's quite a lot of uses of imagery and stuff. So I rambled on about that.
Reply 5
bongadudu
during the reading time i let out a gigle after just reading the poems title lol

LOL I did too:p: but not out of mockery.. really it was an interesting poem.. it's just that my instinct told me to do the prose...

@Nipissing: good job with your choice:smile: you sound like you've made the right decision:biggrin:
I was the only one in my class to do the prose.. which made me look odd:p: but oh well a good commentary is a good commentary, whether prose or poem...
Reply 6
hahaha......well i did the POEM, and really happy and proud about it :biggrin:

considering the fact that i hate english and studying all languages in general...:rolleyes: ....i did excellent!!!
Reply 7
hmm guys don't be shy to elaborate on some of the things you discussed in your essays :p:
Reply 8
I did POEM ,,,(without a conclusion :frown:) ....And it took me time, to choose which one to do !! Both of them were EASY .. Venetian was about Structure and description ..etc.. But at the end i did watermelons bcz i had a sentence on it ...:girl:
Reply 9
I found the prose to be extremely boring (it seemed very factual) so I did the poem BS-ed throughout..hope they buy it
The poem was actually funny,,,,,,and sounded more optimistic than prose
Reply 11
If you dont mind me asking, what did you write about, wonder? what was your dominant idea?
Reply 12
bongadadu
inexplicable game yet she explains it.

ahahahahaha LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL i did not make that point but it seems quite valid to me ahahah lol
rebel4292
If you dont mind me asking, what did you write about, wonder? what was your dominant idea?


Hmm I talked that the watermelon makes the speaker, go back to his childhood, and that it symbolizes childhood, and unicorns also symbolize childhood. Then that "The effect of Diction reinforces imagery" (I read that sentence bfr the exam so I memorized it) I talked about the Structure and that the poet shifts from past to present for example "During that summer" and "now'. I also said that the vivid visual imagery make reader imagine the watermelon and also to recollect their own childhood memories (I loved the eating description). I also said that he repeats some words in the poem to emphasize that they are about his past, and that the whole poem is cheerful and that in my personal opinion it is more Melancholy poem although it is with cheerful tone, since he wants to go back to his past. And that the detailed description makes the image more vivid.
At the end I messed up by including Rhyme and a bunch of other ideas and I didn’t finish my conclusion ( I was in it start ) because water in my desk fell on the exam and the coordinator didn’t give me more time (i needed 30 sec.) to finish it .:frown:
What about u?
Reply 14
I wrote prety much the same as you, except my thesis was based around the beauty of being able to remember the childhood even at an old age. I saw "pickled" as a metaphor for storing something (a memory)
Reply 15
I did the poem (watermelons) because it contained the line "watermelons ruled."

also...
Nipissing

I couldn't care less about Venetian kids.

yeah...

I said "...it is like the picture on a tv with the colour balance set too high...".
I wrote about 3 and a half pages. (thats 2 sheets)
Some great stuff in there though, very confident.
Anything specific you wanted ~Lc~ ?
Kongo
I wrote prety much the same as you, except my thesis was based around the beauty of being able to remember the childhood even at an old age. I saw "pickled" as a metaphor for storing something (a memory)


Since i didnt know what pickled means and what is it relation to watermelon (English is not my first nor my second or third language) i tried to ignore it ,and the whole exam i was thinking WHAT does the lid must to do with eating watermelon,,,,,I came home and then i had the "flick" in mind what does that mean,,,, anyway the guiding questions were really useful , and i discussed that the detailed title foreshadows the detail description of the poem :p:
Reply 17
The structure of my essay was really bad, wrote 4 pages front and back (so 8 sides)..I forgot to talk about the rhyming scheme (or lack of) :s-smilie: I talked about the structure, imagery, diction and how watermelons are used as an extended metaphor and represent the joys and excitement (of childhood) and how unicorns also represent that..and how those joys (bites) decrease as one grows older and although the pickles are preserved theyre not as good as the actual "imperial" watermelons..and all we have to do as adults is "unscrew the lid" that supresses our creativity/individuality and then unicorns (something impossible) can become possible again

So yeah basically, my commentary was full of BS
Reply 18
tfelder

Anything specific you wanted ~Lc~ ?

not really :smile: I'm pretty confident about mine, and not really the type who discusses exams after they're done, but I thought I'd start the thread for people who would like to discuss it, since a thread wasn't started:smile:
I didn't like the prose AT ALL so I went for the watermelons. I actually wrote a conclusion in the last 5 mins which has to be a first, as usually I'm just panicking at the end of a commentary and just putting down as many points as I can...
Hmm... I've just remembered that the only 'tool of literary criticism' I used was imagery - in all its different forms. I even included visual imagery about the dots of those letter 'i's in stanza 2 looking like watermelon pips. How random is that? :rolleyes: