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    (Original post by sw651)
    Cruel irony
    Cruel ivory...
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    (Original post by Farm_Ecology)
    I would say that it is different, but horse racing and riding should be banned.



    I disagree. To get the elephants to allow the riding they have to be trained, part of even the kindest methods is controlling the animals actions through controlling their food supply.
    Horse riding isn't actually cruel in itself. I know that there are cruel practices, but just riding isn't cruel. I frequently ride an Exmoor pony, I know that she's not a horse but they are very similar. She doesn't suffer when I ride her. She gets cared for very well. She is in a stable block with other horses and ponies. She is never in a paddock alone, unless it's for the purposes of infection control.

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    (Original post by kyx)
    cruel ivory...
    prsom. Fgs :d
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    (Original post by sw651)
    prsom. Fgs :d
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    (Original post by abruiseonthesky)
    Probably not. Mostly because I can't see people keeping herds of elephants
    But many people do have herds of elephants, in fact my old boss had a herd of elephants on his land.

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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    But many people do have herds of elephants, in fact my old boss had a herd of elephants on his land.

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    That's pretty cool, where did you work?! Still, I wasn't talking about ballers who have loads of land (most of the time where elephants happen to live, rather than actively having a herd). I'm talking about the people who run these operations, where the majority of the time they have 1 elephant chained up in isolation. It's disgusting.
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    (Original post by abruiseonthesky)
    That's pretty cool, where did you work?! Still, I wasn't talking about ballers who have loads of land (most of the time where elephants happen to live, rather than actively having a herd). I'm talking about the people who run these operations, where the majority of the time they have 1 elephant chained up in isolation. It's disgusting.
    I worked in South Africa, he bought the Elephants.

    From my experience with Thailand they generally have quite few elephants and they actually had pretty good conditions.
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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    I worked in South Africa, he bought the Elephants.

    From my experience with Thailand they generally have quite few elephants and they actually had pretty good conditions.
    That's really cool. I'd love to go to one of the big nature reserves in Africa. I'll have to get some £££ and suck it up and get vaccinated (literally have no idea how I got my nose and helix pierced, I can't stand needles lmao).

    I didn't mean just Thailand, it was just the most obvious example to me Regardless, what you see isn't necessarily the reality (2 dif links).
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    (Original post by abruiseonthesky)
    That's really cool. I'd love to go to one of the big nature reserves in Africa. I'll have to get some £££ and suck it up and get vaccinated (literally have no idea how I got my nose and helix pierced, I can't stand needles lmao).

    I didn't mean just Thailand, it was just the most obvious example to me Regardless, what you see isn't necessarily the reality (2 dif links).
    I did it for free other than flights, I only stayed on the reserve for a weekend though, the rest of the time I was working.

    You get good and bad where ever you go.

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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    I did it for free other than flights, I only stayed on the reserve for a weekend though, the rest of the time I was working.

    You get good and bad where ever you go.

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    I really want to go. Sadly I don't think I'll be working for another few years yet - I plan on being a student for at least another 3 after my undergrad - so no money for me except what I can get over holidays.

    That doesn't make it acceptable to take the chance on mistreatment - especially as the majority are cruelly treated when they're being broken in - or to participate in the entrapment of a wild animal alone, away from others of its species which, whether they're treated well or not, is what you're doing by paying for elephant rides.
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    I feel terrible for the little girl and her father, but the poor elephants They're treated horribly; using wild animals for human entertainment is not right, considering how they're trained in such an inhumane manner
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    (Original post by abruiseonthesky)
    Sad story, but you take your chances. The whole industry with elephant rides needs to be shut down. It's disgusting.
    Very true. Rode an elephant in Agra where the elephant was clearly exhausted. The minder kept hitting it with a large, thin stick. When questioned by my parents about this, the man in all honesty replied that the elephant didn't mind...How in God's name, do you know that?
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Very true. Rode an elephant in Agra where the elephant was clearly exhausted. The minder kept hitting it with a large, thin stick. When questioned by my parents about this, the man in all honesty replied that the elephant didn't mind...How in God's name, do you know that?
    People are horrible, aren't they? It's like when jockeys say that the horses are fine with them hitting them and waving their whips past their bloody eyes.
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    (Original post by abruiseonthesky)
    People are horrible, aren't they? It's like when jockeys say that the horses are fine with them hitting them and waving their whips past their bloody eyes.
    I was thinking of that earlier. Disgusting.
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    I was thinking of that earlier. Disgusting.
    Non-human animals > human animals
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    (Original post by Captain Jack)
    Interesting points of view. I would worry for all of the "thousands" of elephants if the tourist rides now stopped...
    Replace "elephants" with"slaves".
 
 
 
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