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    (Original post by Zacken)
    And a reference and a test and a STEP exam sat early.



    How is it inflated? It's the standard maths offer.



    I did have to hand a reference in as well as my STEP exam grades. My GCSE's were akin to your AS-Levels, honestly.



    Yeah, fair enough. I don't think I'd want to do a post-graduate, though.



    Yep, A-Levels aren't really a thing for maths students. You get two free A*'s from M and FM and then only need to scrape an A in Physics and all your work is poured into STEP.
    Oh right, I see. I appreciate the detailed reply!

    Might I ask why you would not want to continue on to postgrad?

    What exactly would you want to get as a job?

    Oh, and what has you so set on Cambridge?
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    (Original post by Caius Filimon G)
    Oh right, I see. I appreciate the detailed reply!
    No worries!

    Might I ask why you would not want to continue on to postgrad?
    I don't think I'm clever enough to make a meaningful contribution to research or be an academic.

    What exactly would you want to get as a job?
    Hmm, tough question. Whilst I've known for a while precisely what course I want to study, I've got no clue in what profession I want to end up in just yet.

    Oh, and what has you so set on Cambridge?
    I'm not really that set on it. I'd be happy at Warwick but it's mainly because I want to learn a lot of maths and Cambridge has the best maths course in the world and I feel like I'd thrive in that sort of environment.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    No worries!



    I don't think I'm clever enough to make a meaningful contribution to research or be an academic.



    Hmm, tough question. Whilst I've known for a while precisely what course I want to study, I've got no clue in what profession I want to end up in just yet.



    I'm not really that set on it. I'd be happy at Warwick but it's mainly because I want to learn a lot of maths and Cambridge has the best maths course in the world and I feel like I'd thrive in that sort of environment.
    Hmm, yes, being challenged by your peers is one of the surest ways you continue developing in the field in question.

    I learned that the hard way when I moved to the UK and landed in a ditch of a school.

    So then, if you're obviously more intelligent than the vast majority of people, or at the very least have a true gift for mathematics together with the discipline and motivation (passion) to learn as much as possible about it... what could possibly make you think you are not capable of being an academic or make contributions to the field?

    With an MSc you would only really build upon your knowledge. Then, you can move on to a PhD, and actually start making a difference research-wise.

    At the age of (I would guess) 18 I wouldn't say it's a great idea to relegate yourself to a simple degree because you 'don't think you're intelligent enough'. But hey, you still have 3 years of study ahead of you so I'm sure you'll change your mind soon enough.

    And why not try and go for economics? It's really quite fun, and can land you extremely lucrative work with your heavy emphasis on maths. I'd say that that sort of applied maths is also far easier too so it shouldn't be hard to get a masters in that.
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    (Original post by Caius Filimon G)
    So then, if you're obviously more intelligent than the vast majority of people, or at the very least have a true gift for mathematics together with the discipline and motivation (passion) to learn as much as possible about it... what could possibly make you think you are not capable of being an academic or make contributions to the field?

    With an MSc you would only really build upon your knowledge. Then, you can move on to a PhD, and actually start making a difference research-wise.
    Aye, with Cambridge maths and Part III, the equivalent of an MsC is quite... tough.

    At the age of (I would guess) 18 I wouldn't say it's a great idea to relegate yourself to a simple degree because you 'don't think you're intelligent enough'. But hey, you still have 3 years of study ahead of you so I'm sure you'll change your mind soon enough.
    Oh no, that's a definite. I haven't made up my mind about anything yet and if I feel that at the end of the three years I want to go into academia, then I will. Heck, two or three years ago I detested maths and yet here I am. :lol:

    And why not try and go for economics? It's really quite fun, and can land you extremely lucrative work with your heavy emphasis on maths. I'd say that that sort of applied maths is also far easier too so it shouldn't be hard to get a masters in that.
    Finance/Investment Banking/Actuarial stuff is definitely an option. What about yourself? What are your plans?
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Aye, with Cambridge maths and Part III, the equivalent of an MsC is quite... tough.



    Oh no, that's a definite. I haven't made up my mind about anything yet and if I feel that at the end of the three years I want to go into academia, then I will. Heck, two or three years ago I detested maths and yet here I am. :lol:

    QUOTE]And why not try and go for economics? It's really quite fun, and can land you extremely lucrative work with your heavy emphasis on maths. I'd say that that sort of applied maths is also far easier too so it shouldn't be hard to get a masters in that.
    Finance/Investment Banking/Actuarial stuff is definitely an option. What about yourself? What are your plans?[/QUOTE]

    You detested maths three years ago? Huh, now that is very interesting =o

    Well, I destroyed my short-term future by moving to the UK last year for my family (4As 1C at AS; refusals from UCL/LSE after ages of waiting for a reply).

    I might be going to Birminghan with an easy AAB for Policy, Politics, Economics, but preferably the University of Amsterdam for Politics, Psychology, Law and Economics (yep just one degree).

    I love Economics and yet ever since my Maths IGCSE I've detested academic Maths. Econ degrees contain plenty of maths, and econ masters/phds contain an immense amount of maths, so I'm in a tight spot. Might just try to go for geopolitical economic corporate advising rather than economics because of that.

    But hey, I try to look at the bright side: plenty of time to study other subjects casually (psychology/philosophy) and do powerlifting. I'd say that where you do your masters counts for far more than where you do your degree.
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    STEP II 2008:

    Time to lower my standards and goals, I think. I'm definitely performing far worse on the recent papers. Felt rushed for time unlike other mocks and mechanics of all things was my saving grace.

    Total time: 3 hours
    Total marks: 105/120

    Q1: Started with this, easy introduction, spent about 20 minutes on it which is longer than I should have. 16 minutes it the optimal time for this sort of question. Full.

    Q5: Easy integrals. Not so easy inequalities. Had to skip a teensy part of it and got something like 17 marks in 25 minutes.

    Q4: Spent about twenty minutes on this and got till the (iiI) but didn't do it. Differentiating the moduli unnerved me a little. Reckon I scraped like 15 marks here.

    Q6: Got the first two parts fairly easily, and then gave up for some bizzare reason, never came back to it as well... weird. 10 marks. Didn't spend much time on it either, maybe about 15 minutes.

    [Stressing because I had too many partials at this moment]

    Q7: Quick 18 minute DE jam and smashed out a full. Happy with this one.

    [Feeling a bit better so decide to tackle a new question]

    Q2: Thirty minutes doing absolutely nothing. Got about 5/6 marks here, I reckon.

    [Back to panicking and stressing]

    Q3: Not a bad question, managed the bulk of it with some slips in justification. Probably around 15 here.

    [Spends some time polishing questions off and doing some extra work on the partials]

    [Not much time left, about 25 minutes on the clock, what do I do?]

    [Ooh, mechanics]

    Q9: Spent the remaining 25 minutes on here and reckon I got a good 18 or so.

    In total, that gives, out of the 8 attempted questions (although it's really only 7 given how disastrous Q2 was): 105/120.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    STEP II 2008:

    Time to lower my standards and goals, I think. I'm definitely performing far worse on the recent papers. Felt rushed for time unlike other mocks and mechanics of all things was my saving grace.

    Total time: 3 hours
    Total marks: 105/120

    Q1: Started with this, easy introduction, spent about 20 minutes on it which is longer than I should have. 16 minutes it the optimal time for this sort of question. Full.

    Q5: Easy integrals. Not so easy inequalities. Had to skip a teensy part of it and got something like 17 marks in 25 minutes.

    Q4: Spent about twenty minutes on this and got till the (iiI) but didn't do it. Differentiating the moduli unnerved me a little. Reckon I scraped like 15 marks here.

    Q6: Got the first two parts fairly easily, and then gave up for some bizzare reason, never came back to it as well... weird. 10 marks. Didn't spend much time on it either, maybe about 15 minutes.

    [Stressing because I had too many partials at this moment]

    Q7: Quick 18 minute DE jam and smashed out a full. Happy with this one.

    [Feeling a bit better so decide to tackle a new question]

    Q2: Thirty minutes doing absolutely nothing. Got about 5/6 marks here, I reckon.

    [Back to panicking and stressing]

    Q3: Not a bad question, managed the bulk of it with some slips in justification. Probably around 15 here.

    [Spends some time polishing questions off and doing some extra work on the partials]

    [Not much time left, about 25 minutes on the clock, what do I do?]

    [Ooh, mechanics]

    Q9: Spent the remaining 25 minutes on here and reckon I got a good 18 or so.

    In total, that gives, out of the 8 attempted questions (although it's really only 7 given how disastrous Q2 was): 105/120.
    Try Q8 very nice I thought.


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    (Original post by physicsmaths)
    Try Q8 very nice I thought.
    I don't think I know how to do it, but I'll give it a feeble attempt in a bit.
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    Hey Zacken,

    When you applied for the uni's did you already have your AS grades? Because I'm planning on self teaching Maths and FM but I have no proof of grades so its unlike I will get an offer from the likes of LSE, Warwick etc in the 2017 rounds of admission so might have to wait till 2018 which is two years away and long.

    So was wondering how you managed to get an offer?

    Thanks
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    (Original post by ramie)
    So was wondering how you managed to get an offer?
    I didn't have my AS grades no, I hadn't even sat my AS exams yet. I guess I just did really well in the interview and test.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    I didn't have my AS grades no, I hadn't even sat my AS exams yet. I guess I just did really well in the interview and test.
    And I guess you have strong GCSE's.
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    (Original post by ramie)
    And I guess you have strong GCSE's.
    Meh, I suppose so. They aren't that great and I don't think Cambridge care much about them.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Meh, I suppose so. They aren't that great and I don't think Cambridge care much about them.
    Im in a situation where by I have

    A in Econ
    A in Business
    B in Statistics

    but during this year I want to self teach maths and I will get the required A*'s I just don't have any proof nor track record I can achieve this lol
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    (Original post by ramie)
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    Predicted grades, references?
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Predicted grades, references?

    I am a mature student (26) hard to get predicted grades and not sure how helpful a ref would be.
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    (Original post by ramie)
    I am a mature student (26) hard to get predicted grades and not sure how helpful a ref would be.
    Ref: massively useful. Have you asked the Lucy Cavendish account on this site for advice?
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Ref: massively useful. Have you asked the Lucy Cavendish account on this site for advice?

    Yeah I have asked her, and she said I was unlikely to get an offer in 2017 but in a strong position 2018. I will just apply regardless, do the exams, get the grades and go from there. If it takes two years so be it.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    STEP II 2008:

    Time to lower my standards and goals, I think. I'm definitely performing far worse on the recent papers. Felt rushed for time unlike other mocks and mechanics of all things was my saving grace.
    I agree, I think the older papers are much easier

    Funny how, as the standard of maths education in the UK dropped, the standard required for entry rose.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    I agree, I think the older papers are much easier

    Funny how, as the standard of maths education in the UK dropped, the standard required for entry rose.
    Yea it is, but maybe because nowadays more good international students apply like Zain who replace the previous average English/British applicants.
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    (Original post by EnglishMuon)
    Yea it is, but maybe because nowadays more good international students apply like Zain who replace the previous average English/British applicants.
    Yes, partly, I imagine. However, I don't have statistics for the proportion of successful maths students who are from overseas, but I'd imagine that the vast majority are still from the UK, so better competition from overseas is only a small factor.
 
 
 
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