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    I don't get that as a woman. To me it's not a woman's issue. Abortion has to with both genders. It also annoys me that people assume if you are a woman you aren't completely prolife. I am prolife 200%. And I'm a woman. Even abortion in the case of ectopic pregnancy isn't that comfortable to me. I'd prefer abortion to be like the last resort option when it comes to the life of a mother. It should never be up to anyone else whether another human being lives or dies . And it's not a woman's body. Nor a woman's reproductive rights as she has already produced. It's just not a woman's issue. It's human's rights issue. I just case support a any candidate that says people should die simply because their dad was a rapist or because they're handicapped. That doesn't make sense to me as a fellow human being. I don't see how it's assumed a woman can't understand that life should be protected? I just don't get why women are supposed to have one belief and one belief only. Why is that expected?
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    And it gets so tough though in a society where it's shunned to actually have a different opinion.
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    It's just not worth the hassle.

    If we take a pro-life position, we get rabid feminazi's moaning and howling about "How a woman's body is her own" and "She can do whatever she likes".

    If we take a pro-abortion position, we get the holier-than-thou and sanctimonious females shooting us death stares and giving us the "Take responsibility for your actions" line.


    As far as I'm concerned, you're the one that's knocked up so it's your decision.

    If you want to abort it, then you go and do that all on your own love but if you want to see the pregnancy through, then I'll be there every step of the way.
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    It's just not worth the hassle.

    If we take a pro-life position, we get rabid feminazi's moaning and howling about "How a woman's body is her own" and "She can do whatever she likes".

    If we take a pro-abortion position, we get the holier-than-thou and sanctimonious females shooting us death stares and giving us the "Take responsibility for your actions" line.


    As far as I'm concerned, you're the one that's knocked up so it's your decision.

    If you want to abort it, then you go and do that all on your own love but if you want to see the pregnancy through, then I'll be there every step of the way.
    I just don't get why it's assume most women have an incorrect thought that another person's body is a part of their own body. That makes no biological sense. And not all women are unreasonable. I feel insulted that so much of the time I get lumped in with the same ideology simply because I am a woman.

    When we never have a monolithic thought.
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    How does one be 200% a woman? Are you two women stuck together?
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    (Original post by Anon993)
    I just don't get why it's assume most women have an incorrect thought that another person's body is a part of their own body. That makes no biological sense.
    Seriously? What makes no biological sense is that you consider a clump of cells that is not a sentient being a person. By your logic, if you eat eggs you are a massive hypocrite.

    It is not yet 'another person's body' so if the pregnant woman does not wish to have something growing inside her body and feeding off her, she is well within her rights to have it taken out.

    Just because you disagree with abortion, why should every woman's right to choose be taken away?
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    She's right, no abortions, I say do as animals like mice/rats do. If you don't think it's the same time/don't have the resources to care for your offspring..well....it's messy. Nature in the raw!
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    (Original post by supernerdural)
    Seriously? What makes no biological sense is that you consider a clump of cells that is not a sentient being a person. By your logic, if you eat eggs you are a massive hypocrite.

    It is not yet 'another person's body' so if the pregnant woman does not wish to have something growing inside her body and feeding off her, she is well within her rights to have it taken out.

    Just because you disagree with abortion, why should every woman's right to choose be taken away?


    you are a clump of cells yourself so you sound like a hypocrite yourself. This shows you lack humanity.


    And yeah it is. That why it has its own heart. It's not that woman's heart. She doesn't have two heartbeats she only has one. And she has no right to stop anyone's heartbeat but her own. I'm all for suicide. That's her own body but she has absolutely no right just because she's a woman to judge anyone else's life or its worth but her own. It's a sad shame people like you have the audacity to attack the life of a child who has done nothing wrong and never had the chance to do anything wrong.

    It's not her right. She is taking rights from the baby to have more rights that do not belong to her simply to make her life more comfortable! As she won't die the baby will. It's selfish. It's sick. And it's Inhumane. Everyone knows it when they actually deal with it head to head without lying like you are attempting to do.


    Btw an abortion is not just taking a fetus from the womb. That's not an abortion does. It tears the baby limb from limb tears heart his/her body etc... Then it removes its location. An abortion is destruction first removal later. That's what the procedure is.
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    (Original post by joey11223)
    She's right, no abortions, I say do as animals like mice/rats do. If you don't think it's the same time/don't have the resources to care for your offspring..well....it's messy. Nature in the raw!
    you just compared a human life to vermin/pests, Just like the Nazis did.... That says it all right there.


    Human life is not the same as rats. When you dehumanize people it says a lot about you and your philosophy.
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    (Original post by supernerdural)
    Seriously? What makes no biological sense is that you consider a clump of cells that is not a sentient being a person. By your logic, if you eat eggs you are a massive hypocrite.

    It is not yet 'another person's body' so if the pregnant woman does not wish to have something growing inside her body and feeding off her, she is well within her rights to have it taken out.

    Just because you disagree with abortion, why should every woman's right to choose be taken away?

    You're clearly not a great biologist. Where does all this anti-scientific claptrap come from, anyway?

    An egg, for example, a chicken egg is unfertilised. It doesn't have the genetic material to make a chicken.
    An embryo in a body is not an EGG, it has all the genetic material of any other human. It's something else completely.

    Do you really think that pro-life people believe that women having periods is immoral?

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    (Original post by Odd socks)
    How does one be 200% a woman? Are you two women stuck together?
    I meant prolife 200% my bad lol
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    (Original post by supernerdural)
    By your logic, if you eat eggs you are a massive hypocrite.
    Why would eating eggs make them a hypocrite?
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    I agree with you, OP.

    Not with the oppressive anti-choice *******s. Everyone has the right to body autonomy. A foetus is not a person.

    But that's it's ridiculous that abortion is seen as a 'woman's issue'. That's so ****ing cissexist. As well as cis women; trans men and AFAB non-binary people also may become pregnant and want an abortion.
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    (Original post by supernerdural)
    Just because you disagree with abortion, why should every woman's right to choose be taken away?
    People disagree with abortion because they believe that there is a human being inside pregnant women and these human beings have the right to life. Therefore, pregnant women do not have the right to take away someome else's rights.

    I'm not pro-life or pro-choice. I have sympathies with both sides but that's the argument they put across and it's fairly reasonable.
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    (Original post by SmallTownGirl)
    I agree with you, OP.

    Not with the oppressive anti-choice *******s. Everyone has the right to body autonomy. A foetus is not a person.

    But that's it's ridiculous that abortion is seen as a 'woman's issue'. That's so ****ing cissexist. As well as cis women; trans men and AFAB non-binary people also may become pregnant and want an abortion.
    Yeah a fetus is a human being a child. And to me you know who's really nonchoice. It's the person who says a child has no choice and should be sentenced to death with no fault or say or choice of their own considered just so someone else can be more comfortable. Killing anyone for someone else's comfortable is ridiculous and insane. But then again I kind of feel like it makes sense who supports it because the same people who support abortion usually support keeping murderers alive. It's so obvious their main agenda is promurderers in general. Don't get me wrong though I agree with gay marriage but hardly anything else is good coming from that end and it all falls in line. Embrace criminals embrace drugs embrace child abusers and destroy the innocent.
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    A zygote is not sentient and is therefore not a person. If having a child will be psychologically/physically detrimental to the life of the mother, then I think an abortion is morally acceptable. A woman has the right to autonomy over her own body. Despite what you said, it is her own body - she is not merely a house to developing specialised cells.

    I wonder what you think about the preference utiliarianist view that considers the life of humans below the age of a couple months to be lesser than that of animals (not a view I necessarily prescribe to)?
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    It's just not worth the hassle.

    If we take a pro-life position, we get rabid feminazi's moaning and howling about "How a woman's body is her own" and "She can do whatever she likes".

    If we take a pro-abortion position, we get the holier-than-thou and sanctimonious females shooting us death stares and giving us the "Take responsibility for your actions" line.


    As far as I'm concerned, you're the one that's knocked up so it's your decision.

    If you want to abort it, then you go and do that all on your own love but if you want to see the pregnancy through, then I'll be there every step of the way.
    This, I don't bother expressing an opinion on this any more, because it's a lose-lose scenario. I've been told repeatedly that males have no right in telling a woman what to do during a pregnancy so I just keep out of it. I doubt I'll find myself in such a position anyway so it doesn't really matter to me.
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    I'm not arguing whether the foetus growing inside the woman is living or not, yes it is living but it's a speck of existence which isn't really worth fighting over.

    What I feel more strongly about is how people who are 'pro-life' believe it is their choice as to whether a woman has an abortion or not. The final choice should be with the woman (and possibly her partner) as they are the ones whose life it would be affecting. The thing that annoys me a lot is how people who claim to be 'pro-life' in America start killing people at abortion centres because they work there. Russell Howard made a point about the fact that if they're so 'pro-life', why do they want to get rid of people's lives.

    It feels like a non-issue and it does not make sense to me how it has become one. Atleast most people are happy to allow the woman to have the abortion if she's raped, at risk of injury to herself or if her child will have an issue (e.g. Down's syndrome).
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    (Original post by IFoundWonderland)
    A zygote is not sentient and is therefore not a person. If having a child will be psychologically/physically detrimental to the life of the mother, then I think an abortion is morally acceptable. A woman has the right to autonomy over her own body. Despite what you said, it is her own body - she is not merely a house to developing specialised cells.

    I wonder what you think about the preference utiliarianist view that considers the life of humans below the age of a couple months to be lesser than that of animals (not a view I necessarily prescribe to)?
    Neither are you sentient under anesthesia. Should the doctors have the right to kill you when you're under?


    No it is not her own body by fact and by law. She does not have two heart beats and her dna is specifically different. That is not her body. She is taking ownership due to convenience and disowning it when it comes from rape. Your rhetoric never makes sense because it goes from her body to a rapist's baby. ...

    What I think about it? It's equivalent to what the Nazis claimed with the jews.
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    that's your choice. respect other choices


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