The Student Room Group
Reply 1
If you attend a college then you should apply through one.
Reply 2
should you mean i am obligated? because my college is absolutely clueless as to what to do
Reply 3
If your college wants help they can follow the guides availble at UCAS.com. If you feel that they may not be up to it then you can apply individually. Some of the more experienced members may be able to help you about answering your original question.
Reply 4
i think i'm better off applying as an individual.and still, how do i go about the predicted grades and reference?
Reply 5
Well, for the reference get your favourite teacher to do it. Just tell him/her to include anything they feel is relevant to your application, such as to why University is suitable for you. Let them talk about any particular problems you might have had during College, which may have affected your academic performance.

Regarding the predicted grades, well it's simple. Take an average of all your work you've done for that subject. Show it to your teacher for that course and see if they agree with it. If they do, then put that as your predicted grade.

If you apply as an 'individual,' then you will have to fill your UCAS form out yourself. Then you ask your referee to send you the reference so that you can paste it on to your UCAS form.
Reply 6
no,no,no, I meant how do I put the predicted grades on the ucs? I mean, do they trust it if I put them myself (applying as an individual?) ?what guarantee do they have they are "real"? (other than my word of course)
Reply 7
They will contact your referee and ask them to validate it.
Reply 8
You say you are not English, so I assume you are international?? In such case you do apply on your own and you DO NOT predict your grades. Grades prediction is ONLY for UK students. You just fill in the form, put "grades are not predicted", in your personal statement you mention that grades are not predicted by your school. You also need to print out UCAS guidelines on how to write a reference (it's not that simple, it has to be in a certain format etc), print it out and give it to the teacher or college cousellor who will be willing to write one. Then she/he emails it to you and you copy it in your UCAS form and then submit. They also have to explain what type of college you study and if it predicts grades (I assume from your posts that no).
But if you are a UK student - then you better call UCAS for advice.
Reply 9
I applied as an individual. I got my referee to predict my grades and filled them in. The universities gave me offers based on them. I think my referee even mentioned them in her statement.
Reply 10
i amnot from the uk but i was under the impression that everyone applying to the uk needs predicted grades. strayin, only 1 person predicted your grades in all objects???
Reply 11
I am not from UK either, my school does not predict grades, it's the policy, so my referee said in his reference that the policy of the school is not to predict grades. And the offers I got were based on my actual grades at the moment of application (this is true for all international applications). In UK it's the way school system works, but not so in other countries. In UK tutors will predict grades and the student does not see the reference because it's sent directly to UCAS by a tutor. Not so in our case, we see the reference and have to copy/paste it in the online aplication, so grade prediction is not valid. The important thing to remember is that your application is first read not by the department admissions tutor but by the international admissions tutor, and only then with his/her comments it goes to departments. The international admissions tutor knows school system and grades of your country very well. Actually why don't you email the international admissions tutors of all your chosen universities and ask them the question. It's a good idea anyway to outline your situation and ask if they will consider your application. They might say that your qualifications are not good enough for a particular course, for example, or something else. The truth is that every single international application is very different from another and it's best to ask opinion of the international tutor. You most of the time can get their name on the university website, or email the international admissions office, they are always very helpful. But I personally would not predict grades out of my head if your school's policy is not to predict them.
Reply 12
anjay56
You say you are not English, so I assume you are international?? In such case you do apply on your own and you DO NOT predict your grades. Grades prediction is ONLY for UK students.


This is not true. Plenty of foreign students do and should put predicted grades on their UCAS form. Obviously, if your school says they can not predict a grade or you have nothing to predict it from this does not apply, but if you can predict the grades you can put them down. As Wokz said, take an rough average of your work, have a chat with a tutor/teacher and see if they agree and put that down. Besides, you will get a conditional offer upon the grades you will actually achieve, not on the predicted grades so you shouldn't worry about this too much. They just serve as a guideline for the admissions tutors to see if you could be able to meet their demands.
It's not always true that UK students don't see their reference either. I did and was even asked if I wanted anything changed/removed/added- it depends on the school's policy.