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    (Original post by Diabolus)
    Adult to adult heterosexuality is genetically predisposed (adult specifically to mean an adult that can reproduce, i.e. a girl who hasnt hit puberty yet is not an adult), but there is no evidence whatsoever that other sexual orientations are genetically predisposed.

    There's nothing wrong with being gay, just like I think there's nothing intrinsically wrong with being attracted to children (its only morally wrong because society says so), but there's definitely no evidence that anyone is genetically programmed to be attracted to the same sex or to children.
    Uh, there is actually a lot more evidence supporting the opposite of your view but okay. Think what you will. I did not and would never have chosen to be, gay.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Uh, there is actually a lot more evidence supporting the opposite of your view but okay. Think what you will. I did not and would never have chosen to be, gay.
    The way you write that, it just makes it seem like you're ashamed to be gay. You may not have "chosen" to be gay, but your environment definitely influenced you such that you are now a homosexual.

    There is no evidence whatsoever for a "gay gene". Just think about it - a gay gene would completely go against reproductive imperative.

    Again, I will reassert, I dont think there's anything wrong with being gay, but homosexuality is not genetic.
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    (Original post by Diabolus)
    The way you write that, it just makes it seem like you're ashamed to be gay. You may not have "chosen" to be gay, but your environment definitely influenced you such that you are now a homosexual.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/scie...omophobes.html

    There is no evidence whatsoever for a "gay gene". Just think about it - a gay gene would completely go against reproductive imperative.

    Again, I will reassert, I dont think there's anything wrong with being gay, but homosexuality is not genetic.
    What is the evidence to suggest that being gay is a choice?
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    For God sake what are you on about? Stop trying to talk like a pompous politician when you're just an average student sitting at your computer - great, thanks.

    Acting on paedophilic tendencies is wrong as it is harmful. Suggesting an explanation for the origins of paedophilia is hardly justifying the actions. grow up.

    I'm so sick of having these arguments with utter idiots.
    "Duuuuuude homosexuality is normal bro it's all natural stop being a bigot maaaaan"

    That's the justification for homosexuality, and it's the same justification you're trying to push for paedophilia.
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    (Original post by hezzlington)
    What is the evidence to suggest that being gay is a choice?
    Who says it's a choice? It's more likely to be a mental defect.
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    (Original post by Kieselguhr)
    Who says it's a choice? It's more likely to be a mental defect.
    Any actual evidence for this?
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    I'm going to be very truthful now. I laughed hard at the line "sexual emergency"
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    (Original post by hezzlington)
    Any actual evidence for this?
    More evidence than genetic factors, certainly. Have a look at the 23andme study.
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    (Original post by Kieselguhr)
    More evidence than genetic factors, certainly. Have a look at the 23andme study.
    Looked at it. No suggestions that homosexuality is caused by 'mental defect'.
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    (Original post by Diabolus)
    The way you write that, it just makes it seem like you're ashamed to be gay. You may not have "chosen" to be gay, but your environment definitely influenced you such that you are now a homosexual.

    There is no evidence whatsoever for a "gay gene". Just think about it - a gay gene would completely go against reproductive imperative.

    Again, I will reassert, I dont think there's anything wrong with being gay, but homosexuality is not genetic.
    (Original post by Kieselguhr)
    More evidence than genetic factors, certainly. Have a look at the 23andme study.
    You're actually incredibly offensive. You ignore a mass of scientific evidence to the contrary in favour of these backbench studies often carried out by religious scientists with a bias.

    I did not argue there was a gay gene. My environment has not caused me to be gay. You're an idiot if you think so. I grew up in a strict, catholic home with no awareness of what 'gay' was until way after I began to piece together who I am. Do your homework before giving ignorant opinions.
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    (Original post by hezzlington)
    Looked at it. No suggestions that homosexuality is caused by 'mental defect'.
    "In a Dutch study, gay men reported significantly higher rates of mood and anxiety disorders than straight men, and lesbians were significantly more likely to experience depression (but not other mood or anxiety disorders) than straight women." Sandfort, et al. (1999)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homose..._health_issues

    Also, just taking a critical thinking stance, it's a biological failure. The point of any creature is to reproduce - homosexuality is a failure in this regard.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    You're actually incredibly offensive. You ignore a mass of scientific evidence to the contrary in favour of these backbench studies often carried out by religious scientists with a bias.

    I did not argue there was a gay gene. My environment has not caused me to be gay. You're an idiot if you think so. I grew up in a strict, catholic home with no awareness of what 'gay' was until way after I began to piece together who I am. Do your homework before giving ignorant opinions.
    The biggest offense here is the strong denial you have about your homosexuality.

    Just accept who you are dude.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    You're actually incredibly offensive. You ignore a mass of scientific evidence to the contrary in favour of these backbench studies often carried out by religious scientists with a bias.

    I did not argue there was a gay gene. My environment has not caused me to be gay. You're an idiot if you think so. I grew up in a strict, catholic home with no awareness of what 'gay' was until way after I began to piece together who I am. Do your homework before giving ignorant opinions.
    You're not on tumblr any more, nobody gives a toss if you're offended :grin:
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    (Original post by Kieselguhr)
    "In a Dutch study, gay men reported significantly higher rates of mood and anxiety disorders than straight men, and lesbians were significantly more likely to experience depression (but not other mood or anxiety disorders) than straight women." Sandfort, et al. (1999)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homose..._health_issues

    Also, just taking a critical thinking stance, it's a biological failure. The point of any creature is to reproduce - homosexuality is a failure in this regard.
    Maybe because of the abuse they suffer. Are you a student of science?

    You have butchered the interpretation of that study. Higher rates of mood/anxiety disorders are nothing to do with the cause of being gay. (In the context of this study).
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    (Original post by Kieselguhr)
    "Duuuuuude homosexuality is normal bro it's all natural stop being a bigot maaaaan"

    That's the justification for homosexuality, and it's the same justification you're trying to push for paedophilia.
    Normal and natural? Yeah actually, loving - irrespective of gender, is human. I can't believe you're trying to tell me what I think about paedophilia. Like, do not blame me for your ignorance. You should educate yourself on the issue before trying to debate it ((be an offensive ****)), cool.
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    (Original post by Diabolus)
    The biggest offense here is the strong denial you have about your homosexuality.

    Just accept who you are dude.
    Denial? I have been openly gay for about 5 years... what are you talking about?

    Do not tell me how to feel either.
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    I'm going to be very truthful now. I laughed hard at the line "sexual emergency"
    Same.

    Trying to hold it together.

    And failing.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Normal and natural? Yeah actually, loving - irrespective of gender, is human. I can't believe you're trying to tell me what I think about paedophilia. Like, do not blame me for your ignorance. You should educate yourself on the issue before trying to debate it ((be an offensive ****)), cool.
    like I AM SO OFFENDED right now i cANT EVEN!

    nice argument breh

    The reasoning used to justify homosexuality is exactly the same as that which will be, and is now starting to be used to justify paedophilia.
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    (Original post by Kieselguhr)
    You're not on tumblr any more, nobody gives a toss if you're offended :grin:
    I've had worse - keep it coming. You never had any credibility to begin with.
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    (Original post by Kieselguhr)
    like I AM SO OFFENDED right now i cANT EVEN!

    nice argument breh

    The reasoning used to justify homosexuality is exactly the same as that which will be, and is now starting to be used to justify paedophilia.
    People do not need to justify paedophilia and homosexuality nor any sexual inclination. Actions are completely different matters and don't talk to me about "nice argument" - you have the discussion skills of a tortoise.
 
 
 
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