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Modafinil

hallo alles
basically been catching news articles relating to this 'wonder drug' called modafinil which as this site: http://www.antiaging-systems.com/a2z/modafinil.htm , describes is an mind and mood enhancing stimulant that is not addictive, has no side effects and does not affect sleep'

does anyone have any experiences of taking it, either for medically related purposes or just to give you the extra jolt in social, academic lives, etc. Im quite interested in it and wouldn't mind giving it a try. Anyone know where it can be bought without prescription?

Muchos gracias!

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Reply 1
as sooon as i read the first paragrph i thought hell no. unless i need the drug for mood changes, artifically changing your moods is a bit on the dodgy side for me, cos u may do summin u regret.
It's a prescription-only drug. So you can't get it without a prescription (legally anyway).
Reply 3
I knew i had heard of it before... the military are hoping or are replacing amphetamines with it for fighters on a long haul

and uh... it aint particularly good for you didnt you see what happened to that guy who never slept in james bond?

hah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil
Apparently, it is legal to import prescription only drugs for personal use, provided they are not controlled substances.

I've taken adrafinil, which is metabolised into the body into modafinil. It is considered safer, less side effects, and is cheaper. It didn't interfere with my sleep patterns at all, but it did stop me feeling tired, made me feel more alert, without making me feel jittery or anything. I also felt in a good mood, but that may just have been because I wasn't tired like usual hehe.
My little sister has to take it for her narcolepsy, it isn't a wonder drug. It is prescription only, it has side effects, and when she doesn't take it there is a marked difference in her behaviour and personality.
How would you feel if you ended up having to take it all the time just to maintain your new invigorated self? You would be messing with your body for no valid medical reason. You are lucky, you don't have to take drugs for the rest of your life just to stay awake for most of the day, unlike me sister. Treasure that and don't abuse your body.
I'd just like to add that when I've taken the adrafinil form, I haven't experienced any particularly significant mood changes, nor has anyone commented, nor do I feel the need to take them all the time to remain that way. I'm still the same whether I'm on them or off them.
Reply 7
I want some.
Reply 8
Not to mention that I'm sure buying something without prescription is probably illegal :smile:
Reply 9
So does anyone know of anywhere relaible to get these.

p.s. don't use them to up your mood (sugar and/or caffiene would do a much better job) their real talent comes from keeping you awake for long periods of time with little or no side effects.
Reply 10
I use modafinil, I've been taking it for about a week or so. 36 hours awake is easily possible and you're alert and on-the-ball throughout. You could then sleep and repeat. Concentration even seems to be improved at times.

Very good over a revision period I have to say, allows me to actually use the potential I know I've got rather than relying on the whims of motivation and excuses that I often normally make.

BTW, I imported these, IM me and I'll tell you where from.
Mikesev
I use modafinil, I've been taking it for about a week or so. 36 hours awake is easily possible and you're alert and on-the-ball throughout. You could then sleep and repeat. Concentration even seems to be improved at times.

Very good over a revision period I have to say, allows me to actually use the potential I know I've got rather than relying on the whims of motivation and excuses that I often normally make.

BTW, I imported these, IM me and I'll tell you where from.

They don't stop you suffering from sleep deprivation though. They may keep you alert, but they don't stop things like weight gain, metabolic disruption, cognitive deficit and lowered immune system etc brought on by lack of sleep.

theredsox
Not to mention that I'm sure buying something without prescription is probably illegal :smile:

Nope. You can import prescription medication for your own personal use, provided that it's not a controlled substance.
Reply 12
Revd. Mike
They don't stop you suffering from sleep deprivation though. They may keep you alert, but they don't stop things like weight gain, metabolic disruption, cognitive deficit and lowered immune system etc brought on by lack of sleep.


No indeed you are correct, they are not a replacement for sleep. Muscle fatigue after 24 hours is noticeable, for example. The other things you mention I'm unsure about, although I've not noticed any cognitive disadvantages yet.

Certainly they are not a long term answer for someone who isn't narcoleptic, but for a few weeks like an exam period or during a heavy coursework period I don't see you'd have many problems.


Nope. You can import prescription medication for your own personal use, provided that it's not a controlled substance.


Correct. Which to me is insane. You can import from overseas from an unregulated source, but you can't get it from your local chemist. I'd love to know how that is in the interest of the consumer.
I cannot believe that you are actually contemplating doing this. Would you continue to use it as university just to get your coursework done. What happened to good old fashioned hard work and forward planning? I think that you are taking your lives into your own hands. what if there were unknown (at the moment) side effects that will affect your brain in many years to come? And when asked why you took the presciption only medicine it was to make your lives easier at university so you wouldnt have to forward plan.

You have no idea how lucky you are to have a 'normal' brain in the first place, to not fall asleep at akward moments to be ridiculed by your peers because you fall asleep in lessons, to not have to take drugs for the rest of your life, never be able to drive a car, have problems having relationships, not be able to travel on you rown in case you fall asleep. my sis has to put up with this and much more, just use your brain for once.

Sorry about ranting but it is how i feel
Reply 14
batty_hatty
I cannot believe that you are actually contemplating doing this. Would you continue to use it as university just to get your coursework done. What happened to good old fashioned hard work and forward planning? I think that you are taking your lives into your own hands. what if there were unknown (at the moment) side effects that will affect your brain in many years to come? And when asked why you took the presciption only medicine it was to make your lives easier at university so you wouldnt have to forward plan.

You have no idea how lucky you are to have a 'normal' brain in the first place, to not fall asleep at akward moments to be ridiculed by your peers because you fall asleep in lessons, to not have to take drugs for the rest of your life, never be able to drive a car, have problems having relationships, not be able to travel on you rown in case you fall asleep. my sis has to put up with this and much more, just use your brain for once.

Sorry about ranting but it is how i feel



You do have a point... i believe it is a fairly new drug so any long term mental side effects may not be known yet
Reply 15
batty_hatty
I cannot believe that you are actually contemplating doing this. Would you continue to use it as university just to get your coursework done. What happened to good old fashioned hard work and forward planning? I think that you are taking your lives into your own hands. what if there were unknown (at the moment) side effects that will affect your brain in many years to come? And when asked why you took the presciption only medicine it was to make your lives easier at university so you wouldnt have to forward plan.

You have no idea how lucky you are to have a 'normal' brain in the first place, to not fall asleep at akward moments to be ridiculed by your peers because you fall asleep in lessons, to not have to take drugs for the rest of your life, never be able to drive a car, have problems having relationships, not be able to travel on you rown in case you fall asleep. my sis has to put up with this and much more, just use your brain for once.

Sorry about ranting but it is how i feel


I understand entirely what you're saying and you make a good point. My response is simply that whilst the drug might be intended for narcoleptic treatment, that does not restrict it solely to that purpose. I empathise with your sister's condition but I fail to see how her using the drug and someone without the condition wanting to use it for a different (but no doubt important to them) reason are incompatible. Viagra as I recall is used to treat serious symptoms besides impotence.

Besides, you still have to put the work in, you still have to revise and plan and do all of the other things you said. Modafinil allows you simply to put in longer days with no loss of concentration. That's all.

In my case forward planning is something that I have done successfully in the past, during my a-levels I was extremely efficient at revision and did very well. Unfortunately these past few years at university have taken their toll, I now find it much harder to concentrate, much harder to motivate myself and much harder to put the hours in. I know I can do better, push myself harder and learn more but actually bringing myself to do it did really become a problem. I took up running on my doctor's advice, I changed my diet, quit drinking and slept more, but none of those things helped. Then I tried this and the problem has got a fair bit better.

What's wrong with that?

The fact that I can't get a prescription for the drug but can import it legally from abroad is an indictment of the system of drug distribution in this country, not of my actions. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are lobbying interests involved from the very few major pharmaceutical producers and dispensers (thinking of Boots/Alliance UniChem) to ensure that the law stays the way it is.

I am after all a responsible adult, I can weigh up advice and make a decision in my best interest.
Reply 16
batty_hatty
I cannot believe that you are actually contemplating doing this. Would you continue to use it as university just to get your coursework done. What happened to good old fashioned hard work and forward planning? I think that you are taking your lives into your own hands. what if there were unknown (at the moment) side effects that will affect your brain in many years to come? And when asked why you took the presciption only medicine it was to make your lives easier at university so you wouldnt have to forward plan.

You have no idea how lucky you are to have a 'normal' brain in the first place, to not fall asleep at akward moments to be ridiculed by your peers because you fall asleep in lessons, to not have to take drugs for the rest of your life, never be able to drive a car, have problems having relationships, not be able to travel on you rown in case you fall asleep. my sis has to put up with this and much more, just use your brain for once.

Sorry about ranting but it is how i feel


like mikesev, i understand where you're coming from and couldnt possible imagine how hard it is to see a sibling affected so i am sorry if ive come across as insensitive and ignorant.

All i wanted was more information and people's experiences of the drug and only then making up my mind.
for those that have shared thanks!
Revd. Mike

Nope. You can import prescription medication for your own personal use, provided that it's not a controlled substance.


Well. I did say probably. Mainly cause I had no idea :smile:
Reply 18
How much does it cost in the UK? It's not as expensive as it is in the USA is it: saw on one website that is said about $5-7 for 200mg, which is one dosage?
It's quite expensive. Go for Adrafinil instead.