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Reply 20
Revd. Mike
It's quite expensive. Go for Adrafinil instead.

I think I read though that Adrafinil has more side effects than Modafinil and that it's more for the elderly and takes more time, as in months to work.
It has a slower onset, and has less side effects.
Reply 22
Revd. Mike
It has a slower onset, and has less side effects.

Slower as in months? Cos I kind of need immediate relief/action.
Slower as in you won't notice the effects for about an hour hehe.
Reply 24
Revd. Mike
Slower as in you won't notice the effects for about an hour hehe.

Oh OK.:p:
Elements
Oh OK.:p:

Something I meant to say earlier though: If you are going to take these, talk to your doctor first, don't just self medicate. Especially if you're going to be taking modafinil, as you may well need to have U&Es tests done every so often to ensure your kidneys are working properly.
Reply 26
Revd. Mike
Apparently, it is legal to import prescription only drugs for personal use, provided they are not controlled substances.

I've taken adrafinil, which is metabolised into the body into modafinil. It is considered safer, less side effects, and is cheaper. It didn't interfere with my sleep patterns at all, but it did stop me feeling tired, made me feel more alert, without making me feel jittery or anything. I also felt in a good mood, but that may just have been because I wasn't tired like usual hehe.


same, its cheap stuff and i got it without a script in france.

No side effects, none of this "mental damage".. Its been used since the mid 1980s so there is no chance of addiction or psychological problems
Reply 27
Revd. Mike
Something I meant to say earlier though: If you are going to take these, talk to your doctor first, don't just self medicate. Especially if you're going to be taking modafinil, as you may well need to have U&Es tests done every so often to ensure your kidneys are working properly.

Yeah, I'm going to ask my doctor to prescribe it to me. I think they might try to do some bloodtests on me to try to identify what's causing what etc but what are U&E's? I used to have problems with my kidneys when I was younger but they've been fine for many years now. You don't think that that will help prevent my doctor from prescribing them to me as well as doctor's being useless gits?:p: (Well the one's I've come across anyhow).:ninja: Do you reckon it'll be hard to try to make the doctor to prescibe them to me even though they're respectable practiced drugs? Another question regarding something that confuses me: Both Modafinil and Adrafinil have the same trade name: Provigil, however you need a prescription for Modafinil but it's not illegal nto obtain Adrafinil without a prescription (that's what Wikipedia said). So I could just ask for it over the counter/get them to order Provigil in but make a mistaske perhaps with which exact drug Moda or Adra, I mean?
Reply 28
danesh
same, its cheap stuff and i got it without a script in france.

No side effects, none of this "mental damage".. Its been used since the mid 1980s so there is no chance of addiction or psychological problems


As if you can say there are no mental side effects so early... if its ONLY been known since the 80s... that is not a long time nowhere near long enough to guage its effects in one generation let alone more
I think you may have been confused somewhere; Modafinil is called Provivil, whilst Adrafinil is known as Olmifon.

Doctors are apparently unwillingly to prescribe these drugs except to narcoleptics and elderly people with fatigue, just to let you know. However, what I meant was that you should ask your doctor about them before you go and buy them, and make sure that you tell your doctor that you intend to self medicate.

U&Es is short for "Urea and Electrolytes", it's a blood test for kidney function. Modafinil has been linked with some renal problems, adrafinil much less so.
Reply 30
40 tabs of Olmifon cost me about 5.50€ in France (last week)..

Check with your local PCT, they usually have prescribing restrictions or information for prescribers on these drugs (i know that they do in Exeter PCT region)
I read that it was around £3 a dose for modafinil, and about 50p a dose for Ritalin [same effect, but includes weight gain and...shakiness]
Reply 32
I'd love some Modafinil but I know it would be a really stupid idea to take it since I'm already dependent on/addicted to 3 prescription drugs. A lot of people doing degrees take it to get on with work and stuff, it's quite a popular drug.

You can get it from online pharmacies but because it's controlled in this country it's likely to be seized by customs. You might manage to get it through though. Chances for getting it legitimately are very slim as diagnoses for ADD etc. are only done by a few places in the country and there's a long waiting list.

By and large I wouldn't recommend it. People always claim drugs aren't 'addictive' because so long as people taking it don't start stealing car radios to pay for it and lying to their loved about it or whatever then drugs companies can get away without calling it addictive because under the criteria for addiction they're not. But that doesn't mean they won't **** up your life. For example, the Xanax website steps around the issue of addiction, despite it being horrifically addictive (my doctor gave it to me grudgingly and begged me not to take it) and messing up loads of people. Just because someone says it's not addictive doesn't mean it's true.
Reply 33
Elements
Do you reckon it'll be hard to try to make the doctor to prescibe them to me even though they're respectable practiced drugs?


Almost impossible I'd imagine.
Reply 34
Ultimately, whomever signs the prescription is responsible when audit time comes - no doctor will cave in to a patient's demand for a drug which they don't think is necessary. If you think you need it for a legitimate medical reason, they'll listen, but don't expect them to automatically agree.

In the case of Modafinil et al, we have the crazy situation of people turning to dubious routes to source such things; whereas tobacco and alcohol, both of which are measurably less safe, are childs play to get hold off (quite literally...). I knew several students who took up smoking during exams (and then carried on...), and it would have been far better for their health to use Modafinil or suchlike.
Reply 35
YAP
Ultimately, whomever signs the prescription is responsible when audit time comes - no doctor will cave in to a patient's demand for a drug which they don't think is necessary. If you think you need it for a legitimate medical reason, they'll listen, but don't expect them to automatically agree.

In the case of Modafinil et al, we have the crazy situation of people turning to dubious routes to source such things; whereas tobacco and alcohol, both of which are measurably less safe, are childs play to get hold off (quite literally...). I knew several students who took up smoking during exams (and then carried on...), and it would have been far better for their health to use Modafinil or suchlike.


Whoever
etc.
Reply 36
HI I would definitely reccommend you NOT taking it - I took it and although it makes you really alert at first then you feel **** awful. If you do want it, don't buy modalert, one of the generic versions of it... make sure you get provigil, the real stuff
PM me ifyou want to know any more info
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You know there's no difference between the branded and generic products right?
Reply 38
Revd. Mike
You know there's no difference between the branded and generic products right?


Yeah there is sometimes
Reply 39
yeah there is a difference, modalert is crap and makes you feel awful - but then again i was warned that it didnt contain the same ingredients as provigil
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