Should mixed sex wards be abolished?

a common lie
but thing is the bedside tv/phone gasgets are there and people are fine to use them, so its not like they would be nosier chatting on mobiles.

and to answer an earlier comment - mobiles doa ffect some equipment such as in theatres, ITU/HDU so wouldnt be allowed in those areas ever.

Reply 45

20083

When your phone is about to ring you can hear it in your speakers and see your TV flickering. That EMI and of course it affects medical equipment. It's not just your household appliances that it affects.

Reply 46

I've had hospital stays and i would prefer single sex wards. I recently went into hospital and spent three days on a medical assessment ward. I shared a bay with three gentlemen and myself. I'm 18, and each of these men were well into their late 80's. It just wasn't right- one was walking around naked (i believe he was suffering from dementia or similar) and another was shouting for the nurse all night, thus keeping me awake. I think there definately needs to be more single sex wards, in addition to adolescent units!

Reply 47

Isobell

Jamie

OK, I'll spell it out very simply for those that are seemingly unable to grasp this.

There are 3 varients on a ward.
1) Mixed sex - sex is ignored when allocating beds, such that you may be next to someone of the opposite sex. These are very rare nowaday because most wards now aren't made up of rows of beds, but instead are made up of bays with 4-6 people in each bay. each ward has multiple bays.
In 'number 1' format, each bay is mixed sex.

2) Mixed sex - single sex bays. This is by far the most common arrangement nowadays. You DON'T end up sleeping in a bed next to someone of the opposite sex, but there are memebers of the opposite sex on the ward. So you may run into them whilst walking about, ging to the loo/shower etc.

3) Single sex wards. Each ward is entirely one sex. These are rather rare outside of certain specialties (gynae wards and obstetric wards of course!) because it is far better to base wards on medical/surgical types than on gender.

Now i disagree with the type 1 arrangement - which is something darzona has come across. but i think alot of people have misconceptions about 'mixed sex wards', not helped by certain 'staff mouthing off"

*Certain staff mouthing off, would you be meaning me, by any chance?

Have you ever worked in a lowly position in a Hospital?

Maybe a touch of humility wouldn't go amiss?

Reply 48

CapenCyber

Jamie

a common lie
but thing is the bedside tv/phone gasgets are there and people are fine to use them, so its not like they would be nosier chatting on mobiles.

and to answer an earlier comment - mobiles doa ffect some equipment such as in theatres, ITU/HDU so wouldnt be allowed in those areas ever.

Yeah, they can and do use them, but have you seen the prices?

Reply 49

CapenCyber

Yeah, they can and do use them, but have you seen the prices?

i know, its utterly ridiculous.

Reply 50

Chase Me

8

No. What is the problem with them? Younger kids are none the wiser, as we've already demonstrated. I had my tonsils out when I was 9, and I was very grateful of an older boy in the bed next to me who let me borrow his game boy and showed me all the tricks and cheats for Super Mario Bros. I'd have been bored out of my mind. Aaanyway, older patients should be more mature, I can hardly imagine grown women giving it, 'Eeee, boys, yuck. :frown:

' And what about visitors? Are they going to prohibit male visitors from entering female wards? And of course vice versa....

So anyway, what are the advantages of single sex wards? I mean, apart from those of different cultures who aren't meant to be seen in anything less than a bhurka in front of men other than their husbands.

Reply 51

Chase Me

No. What is the problem with them? Younger kids are none the wiser, as we've already demonstrated. I had my tonsils out when I was 9, and I was very grateful of an older boy in the bed next to me who let me borrow his game boy and showed me all the tricks and cheats for Super Mario Bros. I'd have been bored out of my mind. Aaanyway, older patients should be more mature, I can hardly imagine grown women giving it, 'Eeee, boys, yuck. :frown:

' And what about visitors? Are they going to prohibit male visitors from entering female wards? And of course vice versa....

So anyway, what are the advantages of single sex wards? I mean, apart from those of different cultures who aren't meant to be seen in anything less than a bhurka in front of men other than their husbands.

Read up a few posts until you find mine. I feel my reasons are perfect examples of why mixed-sex wards are a bad idea!

Reply 52

and like i said, those types of wards are very rare. the mixed ward usually means multiple single sex bays on one ward.

Reply 53

Jamie

and like i said, those types of wards are very rare. the mixed ward usually means multiple single sex bays on one ward.

Were you referring to my post? MAU wards are VERY common and most hospitals have them these days. They are usually filled with gereatric patients (mixed sex again) and anyone else who is waiting for a transfer to a ward/ test results. MAU wards are meant to have a fast turnover, with patients being redirected to wards or discharged as quickly as possible but i've spent a week in an MAU ward myself as there were no beds on the correct ward for me.

Reply 54

MAU, CDU - whatever you call them are ****ing joke.
THey were invented to get around the govt 4 hour waiting rules for A&E. THe standard of care there and conditions are often reprehensible, and the continuity of care a joke.
the only saving grace is most places get people out of there pretty quickly.

but if i was stuck there and didnt havea life threatening condition - i'd self discharge myself out and get myself to another hospital.

Reply 55

40550

As long as the paitents get treated, whats the problem? Everybody has a curtain.

Reply 56

Revd. Mike

17

The MAU were I volunteer is supposed to be a max. 48 hour stay, but there's at least one patient on there who's been there since I started 8 days ago...

And no, single sex wards are silly. There's a female only ward at my hospital that has half of it's beds empty, whilst the other wards are brimming! Where's the logic?

Reply 57

dddd

As long as the paitents get treated, whats the problem? Everybody has a curtain.

Which you aren't meant to have closed for a large proportion of the time, so that the nurses/ HCA's can keep an eye on you and your condition (i've always been told to keep mine open anyway)

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