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Do you think there is anti-black racism in south asian communities in the UK?
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I'm not sure how pervasive it is, but I know a lot of Pakistani kids at school tended to have a bit of an attitude towards those of darker skin, although it may have just been some of the few I knew.
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Yes, I know for a fact there is.
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Yeah with the older generation.
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Yes, I know for a fact there is.
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Especially with older generations Blacks are almost seen as inferior to everyone else.
Too many people have the idea they're all violent uneducated criminals.
There's also that obsession with darker skin being considered ugly. My aunt was bullied a lot as a child by both other children and adults over her skin colour, because she is fairly dark.
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As others have mentioned, maybe with some of the older generations - particularly if they've never actually met, interacted or had a conversation with one - and merely hold racist views out of sheer ignorance.
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As others have mentioned, maybe with some of the older generations.
never underestimate these evil children who learn everything from this scapegoated older generation.
that being said, I think it's separatism.
not racism.
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Especially with older generations Blacks are almost seen as inferior to everyone else.
Too many people have the idea they're all violent uneducated criminals.
There's also that obsession with darker skin being considered ugly. My aunt was bullied a lot as a child by both other children and adults over her skin colour, because she is fairly dark.
People still find dark skin ugly they're just more quiet about it because civil rights. But you can still see the blaring preference for fair skin. I'm not even as light as I can be but on my mum's side, they're dark Indians anyway but on top of that my mother has a full black Caribbean dad. So me compared to them I was praised for my skin like her family always hugged me up and ignored the darker kids :lolwut:
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(Original post by mango peeler)
never underestimate these evil children who learn everything from this scapegoated older generation.
that being said, I think it's separatism.
not racism.
Updated my post. It's probably both in some cases, or either one of those in other cases. Can't really say they're all the same as that's simply untrue. Some are, some aren't - usually out of ignorance, in my experience. In fact, not just against black people, but oriental, white etc. too. It varies.
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I'd say that this answers the question:

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Updated my post. It's probably both in some cases, or either one of those in other cases. Can't really say they're all the same as that's simply untrue. Some are, some aren't - usually out of ignorance, in my experience. In fact, not just against black people, but oriental, white etc. too. It varies.
As I said, it's separatism. That is a major difference to racism and ignorance.
Separatism if you don't know is when you speak to people who aren't from your race and culture. You let your kids attend school with them. You might hire them. But you will never let them in your home or family.

Racism...is not only will you refuse to socialise, you will avoid them at all cost, and make sure you don't let your kids around them and will never intentionally/knowingly reside around them.

South Asians aren't racist mostly. Many are separatists.
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I'd say that this answers the question:

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hahaha but that doesn't answer it at all. Skin bleach doesn't mean anti black per se. Anti-black is not liking Africans. Skin bleach just means you want light skin..
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hahaha but that doesn't answer it at all. Skin bleach doesn't mean anti black per se. Anti-black is not liking Africans. Skin bleach just means you want light skin..
Fair enough, but I think that you'll find that older generations do tend to sort of look down on black people just because of their skin.
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Fair enough, but I think that you'll find that older generations do tend to sort of look down on black people just because of their skin.
I already said the older generations are scapegoated. They teach your young peers as well to be hateful. It's just more implicit because civil rights scares people down from upfront "get away from me" or "I'd never date you," etc.
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As I said, it's separatism. That is a major difference to racism and ignorance.
Separatism if you don't know is when you speak to people who aren't from your race and culture. You let your kids attend school with them. You might hire them. But you will never let them in your home or family.

Racism...is not only will you refuse to socialise, you will avoid them at all cost, and make sure you don't let your kids around them and will never intentionally/knowingly reside around them.

South Asians aren't racist mostly. Many are separatists.
Based on that description, this is more likely the case then. I've rarely encountered genuine racism/hatred/loathing - it's usually more about protecting and socialising within their own culture.

Come to think of it, I doubt my grandparents would have approved marriage outside the culture and religion. In a professional environment, they never had any issues with other races and cultures.

The newer generation is different from the looks of it, my younger brother has a very diverse circle of close friends.
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Based on that description, this is more likely the case then. I've rarely encountered genuine racism/hatred/loathing - it's usually more about protecting and socialising within their own culture.

Come to think of it, I doubt my grandparents would have approved marriage outside the culture and religion. In a professional environment, they never had any issues with other races and cultures.

The newer generation is different from the looks of it, my younger brother has a very diverse circle of close friends.
lol like I said
sure they'll have diverse friends.
As I said, separatism is not excluding people because of race from being social. Racism does. But separatism is, you'll never marry into my family. It's more lax racism.
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lol like I said
sure they'll have diverse friends.
As I said, separatism is not excluding people because of race from being social. Racism does. But separatism is, you'll never marry into my family. It's more lax racism.
I was supporting your point.
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People still find dark skin ugly they're just more quiet about it because civil rights. But you can still see the blaring preference for fair skin. I'm not even as light as I can be but on my mum's side, they're dark Indians anyway but on top of that my mother has a full black Caribbean dad. So me compared to them I was praised for my skin like her family always hugged me up and ignored the darker kids :lolwut:
Yeah, it really pisses me off when I see this. Even in my own family. Luckily none of my aunts or uncles are this ignorant but a lot of other family like my grandmas sisters are incredibly ignorant. It infuriates me to be honest.
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I'd say that this answers the question:

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Looool :rofl: my aunt used to wear that!
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