Algerian rapist shouts INSHALLAH whilst raping German girl

You answered the first bit but how does that apply to this case where a guy rapes a random women on the street?

Just to be clear, are you genuinely saying that these guys will contribute as much in tax as it will cost to take them in and support them?

Have you suffered a head injury?

What is the Islamic definition of a "captive" then and how does it apply to raping a random person on the street?

It doesn't apply. I think it's stupid to suggest that this case was motivated by religion.

Well it was motivated by his own interpretation of the religion, same with extremists being motivated by their own interpretation of the religion to blow **** up. It's a good thing these people are in the minority then otherwise we would all be ****ed then lol.

Do you read Arabic? Do you what "Melk al-yameen" means? I do, and it means slaves. The Quran states clearly that you can have sex only with your wives and those whom your right hand possesses "Melk al-yameen".

Having sex with someone who isn't your wife or slave is something you get flogged for in the Quran.

As for the rape of captives, I don't think it applies here.

Anyway, to be honest, it is stupid to think that those people are ONLY raping because an ancient book tells them to do so. For the billionth time I say it, the Middle East, specially the poorer places like Algeria, has a significant population of "chavvy" imbeciles who have absolutely no moral laws or anything. There is not enough security forces, be it police or otherwise, to teach what's right and wrong in their countries and so once they're 18-19 they will have developed a criminal nature that you can't just erase. Now you take this class of people and you throw them in a country filled with beautiful women, you'd be stupid not to expect **** like this.

In a purely Quranic context, it ranges from those taken in battle, to those taken in a raid on a caravan in their own territory. The latter is commercial and civil, rather than military, which could lead to a very wide interpretation as to what a "captive" is and how they may be taken.

A lone horseman, riding into an oasis encampment at night and snatching a girl, to then ride off into the night, would certainly regard her as his captive (what thy right hand possesses) and would believe that he was permitted (by both Quran and sahih hadith) to have sex with her.

Now, most rational people recognise that the Quran and sunnah are historically and culturally relative documents that do not apply to 21st century Europe. However, there are some who really, really believe in their contents, who are absolutely certain that they still do apply, in their entirety. And some of those will be prepared to act on that belief.

Not saying that this is the case in this instance. Just that it is a possibility.

You call that sex slaves that's your misinterpretation you can't push your misinterpretation onto me

Correct. However, international law considers sex with a slave to be rape.

It is covered by sex with slaves. And is therefore rape.

All very reasonable, but the issue was whether Islam permits the raping of slaves and captives, which it does, and along with a general culture of misogyny it certainly isn't going to make the situation you discribe any better.

Much of white western European culture is built on, or harks back to, the Romans and they were no different. Undoubtedly no Muslim today should be keeping slaves and raping them. And you will see only a very few of the hardline Saudi wahhabis do this. I don’t think you'll find slaves tied up in the cellar of Imran's corner shop.

are you required by Islam to defend rapists ?

It doesn't apply. I think it's stupid to suggest that this case was motivated by religion.

I don't think it was motivated by religion. It was almost certainly motivated by sexual desire. However, the religious element could have been an enabler.

Absolutely not, I would say 99% of Muslims would strongly resist the idea of a sex slave, I am only arguing against the book and not it's people.

I don't see how race, religion or country of origin has to come into it at all. Under blind justice, if Muslims rape more, we will see commensurately more Muslims behind bars for rape - no more or less of them than is deserved.

Then surely this is not about Muslims but Wahhabis. In which case most Muslims would be your allies.

Then surely this is not about Muslims but Wahhabis. In which case most Muslims would be our allies.

in france the imprisonment rate for those with 'islamic background' is 3 or 4 times higher than those of any other faith background. this is confusing seeing as im sure youll understand as you can go on the ISOC website and hear that having an islamic background is better than haveing any other sort of background and' islam is the best way etc'