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    (Original post by mangala)
    yeah or you could provide it for free and actually get more people in to university. a better educated population gives you a better country in the future, it's a long-term investment.
    The funny thing is there probably too many people going to University already, doing degrees that aren't necessarily needed for the betterment of society. The post graduate environment is extremely tough these days. There aren't enough people pursuing apprenticeships

    Anyway completely free higher education is impractical, unworkable and downright silly.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    The government still pays them what it used to it just stopped increasing it......

    They get something like 20k per person


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    The point is that somebody has to pay and "free" education is just code for "I think somebody else should pay"

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    (Original post by mangala)
    ur dad
    is dead.
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    The funny thing is there probably too many people going to University already, doing degrees that aren't necessarily needed for the betterment of society. The post graduate environment is extremely tough these days. There aren't enough people pursuing apprenticeships

    Anyway completely free higher education is impractical, unworkable and downright silly.
    it has only recently NOT become free you idiot. it worked fine when it was free
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    (Original post by mangala)
    it has only recently NOT become free you idiot. it worked fine when it was free
    Once again no need to get Butthurt.

    Considering the economic policies of the current government making higher education completely free would be "impractical, unworkable and downright silly"
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    (Original post by Arsenal96)
    Actually the welfare system has been reformed many times over since the 50s. Try again.

    My point on population growth was to do with standards of living. On the topic of university that is attributed to there once being 5% of school leavers attending uni compared to 50+%
    Yes and as many of those changes are to take things away from welfare as they are to add to them....

    In regards to number I agree too many ******** degrees but that is a separate issue.

    They could have simply stopped funding low job sector demand degrees


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    (Original post by mangala)
    that's exactly my point you ****ing window licker, make it free
    Oh and who is supposed to pay the university? Or do you want the tax payers to pay for that aswell? Not sure how you can call someone a window licker when your idea is that of one itself.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    The point is that somebody has to pay and "free" education is just code for "I think somebody else should pay"

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    I'll say that graduates should get a tax break then as they earn on average more than none graduates


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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Oh and who is supposed to pay the university? Or do you want the tax payers to pay for that aswell? Not sure how you can call someone a window licker when your idea is that of one itself.
    you do realise that university used to be free a few years ago, right?
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    Once again no need to get Butthurt.

    Considering the economic policies of the current government making higher education completely free would be "impractical, unworkable and downright silly"
    the economic policies of this government can be summed up as "**** the poor". of course they would say free university is a bad thing
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    (Original post by mangala)
    you do realise that university used to be free a few years ago, right?
    You mean nearly two decades ago when it was pretty much only the elite allowed to go who were generally wealthy to begin with
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    (Original post by mangala)
    not at all. i can only afford to go to uni if i get the £2k sholarship for getting AAB or above because they have cut the low income grant.
    Bullocks, the grant being there makes no difference. In fact, you get MORE now all-in from student finance than you would before.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    You mean nearly two decades ago when it was pretty much only the elite allowed to go who were generally wealthy to begin with
    pretty sure that isnt what im proposing buddy mate
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    Part of the definition of a 'loan' is that it has to be paid back. I don't see why this is a question.
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Bullocks, the grant being there makes no difference. In fact, you get MORE now all-in from student finance than you would before.

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    you sound like david cameron mate. "after these tax credit cuts, people will actually be £2,000 better off" as if that makes any sense.
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    (Original post by mangala)
    it has only recently NOT become free you idiot. it worked fine when it was free
    No it didn't. Student numbers have significantly increased.

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    (Original post by mangala)
    pretty sure that isnt what im proposing buddy mate
    So when was this time very recently where nearly half a million per year were entering university funded entirely by the state exactly?

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    No it didn't. Student numbers have significantly increased.

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    loool because lower rated universities were not properly funded
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    (Original post by mangala)
    loool because lower rated universities were not properly funded
    No, because the government had capped student numbers because they had limited funding. The numbers surged at the turn of the decade because fees meant they could afford more students so had a higher cap, and are going up again because increased fees means they can have no cap.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    No, because the government had capped student numbers because they had limited funding. The numbers surged at the turn of the decade because fees meant they could afford more students so had a higher cap, and are going up again because increased fees means they can have no cap.

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    i said they were not properly funded, you disagreed and said it was because they had limited funding. ok buddy
 
 
 
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