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    Why has Turkey got to be so unreasonable?

    The government of Iraq has granted their Kurds semi autonomy but Turkish government refuses to negotiate or make any compromise with the Kurds.

    Infact at this moment crimes against humanity are being committed in Eastern Turkey against the Kurds. The town of Cizre had been under siege since last summer. Bringing back memories of the siege of Leningrad or the siege of Sarajevo.

    http://kurdishquestion.com/index.php...acred-too.html

    To be honest the behaviour by Turkish government is pure racism.
    - In 2014 Kurds facing certain death from ISIS in Kobani were refused sanctuary in Turkey, yet Syrian Arabs were allowed in.

    -Turkey has attacked Kurds on the Syrian side of the border who are fighting ISIS but refuses to attack ISIS who also occupy parts of the Syria Turkey border. Despite the fact that Turkey is supposed to be attacking ISIS but attacks Kurds instead.

    A lot of people protest about the rights of Palestine but few people notice the even worse aggression that exists against the Kurdish people by Turkey a NATO country that wants to be in the EU. I would like to see:

    -trade sanctions against Turkey,
    -suspension from NATO.
    -a no fly zone banning Turkey flying over Kurdish areas in Turkey, Iraq and Syria.
    - Turkey to be refused entry to the EU but Kurdistan to be allowed to join the EU without Turkey.
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    kurds are no angels themselves, you think they care about there own [email protected]?
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    The Government of Iraq was blackmailed into granting the Kurds some degrees of autonomy. In fact, the Kurds hardly listen to Baghdad anymore.

    The Government of Iran is opposed to any form of Kurdish government or succession.

    The Government of Syria is similarly opposed to any kind of self-governing Kurdish country.


    Turkey is simply one of 4 countries which the Kurds want to take territory from, to establish their own state which one presumes would be based along the lines of Marxism-Leninism and oligarchies. For countries that will lose out, this is unacceptable.
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    The Government of Iraq was blackmailed into granting the Kurds some degrees of autonomy. In fact, the Kurds hardly listen to Baghdad anymore.

    The Government of Iran is opposed to any form of Kurdish government or succession.

    The Government of Syria is similarly opposed to any kind of self-governing Kurdish country.


    Turkey is simply one of 4 countries which the Kurds want to take territory from, to establish their own state which one presumes would be based along the lines of Marxism-Leninism and oligarchies. For countries that will lose out, this is unacceptable.
    But the Kurds are a people who simply want their own country, just like Britain gave the Irish their own country and the Scots a referendum. Turkey refuses to give the Kurds anything. Even Saddam Hussein allowed an autonomy of sorts for the Kurds.

    A Kurdistan based along Marxist Leninist lines is perhaps a good thing in the Middle East instead of the Jihadist extremism we see nowadays. Such a Kurdistan could actually be a stabilising force in the ME that's presently dominated by Saudi inspired Wahhabism.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    But the Kurds are a people who simply want their own country, just like Britain gave the Irish their own country and the Scots a referendum. Turkey refuses to give the Kurds anything. Even Saddam Hussein allowed an autonomy of sorts for the Kurds.
    With all due respect, comparing Kurdish ambitions for independence with nations that make up Britain is hardly relevant.

    In the first instance, the borders which would constitute an independent state are hardly defined for Kurds unlike the Scots where there has been a firm and separate jurisdiction for at least 8 centuries. Or the Irish, which have limited geographical control because it's an island. Comparatively, many of the modern nations in the Middle East, that the Kurds would fashion their new state from, have hardly been in existence for 100 years and there are various territorial disputes.

    A Kurdistan based along Marxist Leninist lines is perhaps a good thing in the Middle East instead of the Jihadist extremism we see nowadays. Such a Kurdistan could actually be a stabilising force in the ME that's presently dominated by Saudi inspired Wahhabism.
    You call a group of people wanting to secede and live within their own group of people, through acts of violence a stabilizing force?

    That part of the world has had too many issues and the only way to stabilize it, is to merge the borders between them, creating an oversight committee but different administrative regions based on linguistic, cultural and religious heritage, which would be highly autonomous and be responsible for their own jurisdictions.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    But the Kurds are a people who simply want their own country, just like Britain gave the Irish their own country and the Scots a referendum. Turkey refuses to give the Kurds anything. Even Saddam Hussein allowed an autonomy of sorts for the Kurds.

    A Kurdistan based along Marxist Leninist lines is perhaps a good thing in the Middle East instead of the Jihadist extremism we see nowadays. Such a Kurdistan could actually be a stabilising force in the ME that's presently dominated by Saudi inspired Wahhabism.
    We can debate all day about how righteous the Kurds are or on the merits of Marxism but it comes down to the fact that the nations which stand to lose territory have no real reason to give it up. Why would they want to?
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    We can debate all day about how righteous the Kurds are or on the merits of Marxism but it comes down to the fact that the nations which stand to lose territory have no real reason to give it up. Why would they want to?
    Iraq has at least reached a compromise giving the Kurds autonomy and self rule whilst still remaining part of Iraq. Would that not be a fair compromise in Turkey? An autonomous Kurdish Republic, but still part of Turkey.
    Best of both worlds some freedom for the Kurds, their own laws, social security system, flag and the Turks don't loose any territory.

    There needs to be negotiations to reach this type of deal in Turkey and Kurdish autonomy being a pre-condition for membership of the EU.

    Meanwhile suspension from NATO should be considered with regards to the war crimes being committed against Kurds.

    Remember as a NATO member tax payers in Britain are helping provide arms for Turkey to commit these crimes against innocent people.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    Remember as a NATO member tax payers in Britain are helping provide arms for Turkey to commit these crimes against innocent people.
    When our government actively helps sell weapons, aircraft and missile systems to Saudi Arabia, who use them to crush dissent both within the Kingdom and outside, do you really think that your guilt-trip argument will work?
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    They don't want to see their country fragment. The British establishment didn't behave an awful lot better with regard to Irish separatists either tbh
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    Free Kurdistan!!!

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    (Original post by Snickers Please)
    Free Kurdistan!!!

    Free Kurdistan !
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    They don't want to see their country fragment. The British establishment didn't behave an awful lot better with regard to Irish separatists either tbh
    What about Sudan? They allowed the Christian South autonomy now their is a South Sudan.

    Also Indonesia was forced to give up East Timor which is now an independent state.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    What about Sudan? They allowed the Christian South autonomy now their is a South Sudan.

    Also Indonesia was forced to give up East Timor which is now an independent state.
    Trust me, I agree that often localism and/or self-determination is the way forward (particularly where you're talking pronounced, and bloody, tribal and/or inter-civilsational lines of division). I'm also no fan of the cretinous/murderous Turkish leadership or how they've treated the Kurds :erm:
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    (Original post by Snickers Please)
    Free Kurdistan!!!

    Why is he holding an ISIS flag in his other hand?

    EDIT: Not an ISIS flag, but a flag often associated with ISIS.
 
 
 
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