Cologne: Only 3 of 58 arrested over mass sex attack are recent refugees

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6874201.html

"Majority of suspects are of Algerian, Tunisian or Moroccan descent and none had recently arrived in Germany, police say

Just three of the 58 suspects arrested in connection with the mass sex attack on women in Cologne on New Year’s Eve were refugees, it has been reported."

Its worth noting that the definition of recent arrival is not clear, nor refugee

Also: "of 1,054 complaints received, 600 were connected to theft rather than a sexual offence."


Perhaps we shouldn't be so alarmed at the recent influx?
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(Original post by Mathemagicien)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6874201.html

"Majority of suspects are of Algerian, Tunisian or Moroccan descent and none had recently arrived in Germany, police say
"The majority of the suspects were of Algerian, Tunisian or Moroccan origin and three were German citizens, according to Cologne public prosecutor Ulrich Bremer."

ie: all except 3 were migrants.

Perhaps we shouldn't be so alarmed at the recent influx?
The problem has always been about migration, not the classification into economic migrant/refugee.
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alles in ordnung
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You do realise this is even worse news?
So the vast majority were men that have lived here for some time and integration has had no effect on them at all, and they're still rocking that Tahrir Sq vibe?
At least if the vast majority were brand new out of the box you could be telling us that they know no better and will westernize with time.
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(Original post by Mathemagicien)
Perhaps we shouldn't be so alarmed at the recent influx?
Perhaps the more important lesson is that people who have been in the country for a long time are still entrenched in the misogyny they were indoctrinated into, and have not integrated.
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"Majority of suspects are of Algerian, Tunisian or Moroccan descent" .. oh, well that's ok then, no migrant crisis, we can all go home

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P.S. "the overwhelming majority of those arrested 'fall into the general category of refugees'". Perhaps read the full article next time :facepalm2:
Are these the same refugees who have come from Syria?
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These are not recent arrivals? So what you're saying is you can take the man out of the backwards crap hole, but you can't take the backwards crap hole out the man?

Sounds promising.
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The article is *******s apparently

http://www.thelocal.de/20160215/repo...-attacks-wrong

Just a desperate attempt by the migrant-loving, islamophile indy to dismiss the mass assaults.
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The article is *******s apparently

http://www.thelocal.de/20160215/repo...-attacks-wrong

Just a desperate attempt by the migrant-loving, islamophile indy to dismiss the mass assaults.
From that article: "Whereas 30 of the suspects come from Morocco and 27 are Algerian, no other nationality has more than four men being investigated, with Iraq having the third-highest at four."

Hence at most 3 Syrians are among that group
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I am actually surprised anyone got arrested ...
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After reading some of these recent articles, I'm not quite sure what to think of the migrant crisis. It's absolutely abysmal that this is happening suffice it to say.
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(Original post by Mathemagicien)
From that article: "Whereas 30 of the suspects come from Morocco and 27 are Algerian, no other nationality has more than four men being investigated, with Iraq having the third-highest at four."

Hence at most 3 Syrians are among that group
How many among those who have arrived are really Syrians? There is a mass black market of forged Syrian passports, and you can see stories of men from Morocco and Algeria taking the plane to Istanbul to then travel with the flow to enter Europe as Syrians.
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(Original post by Mathemagicien)
From that article: "Whereas 30 of the suspects come from Morocco and 27 are Algerian, no other nationality has more than four men being investigated, with Iraq having the third-highest at four."

Hence at most 3 Syrians are among that group
But the independent claims none of them had recently arrived in Germany, and the Cologne prosecutor contradicted that by saying they all arrived in 2015.

The author of the article wants to pretend the attacks had nothing to do with the influx which could not be further from the truth. It's a shocking piece of journalism.
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Another article to balance the story:

Most of the suspects identified in connection with a series of robberies and sexual assaults in Cologne during New Year's celebrations are refugees, prosecutors said Monday.The crimes, described as unprecedented by authorities, sparked uproar in Germany and a heated debate about the country's ability to integrate almost 1.1 million people who sought asylum there last year.Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said 73 suspects have been identified so far — most of them from North Africa. A total of 1,075 criminal complaints have been filed, including 467 alleging crimes of a sexual nature ranging from insults to rape."The overwhelming majority of persons fall into the general category of refugees," Bremer told The Associated Press, saying recent reports describing only three of the suspects as refugees were "total nonsense."Initially, authorities in Cologne were accused of downplaying the fact that the attackers included many asylum-seekers because of the political sensitivity of the issue.The suspects included 30 Moroccan nationals, 27 Algerians, four Iraqis, three Germans, three Syrians, three Tunisians, and one each from Libya, Iran and Monte*****, Bremer said."They have various legal statuses, including illegal entry, asylum-seekers and asylum applicants," he said of the foreign suspects. "That covers the overwhelming majority of suspects."Twelve of the 73 suspects are linked to sexual crimes, though only one of those — a Moroccan asylum-seeker who entered Germany in November — is in custody, he said.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ekers-36946143
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But the independent claims none of them had recently arrived in Germany, and the Cologne prosecutor contradicted that by saying they all arrived in 2015.

The author of the article wants to pretend the attacks had nothing to do with the influx which could not be further from the truth. It's a shocking piece of journalism.
The "Independent" stops printing its garbage. Good riddance.
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(Original post by tengentoppa)
But the independent claims none of them had recently arrived in Germany, and the Cologne prosecutor contradicted that by saying they all arrived in 2015.

The author of the article wants to pretend the attacks had nothing to do with the influx which could not be further from the truth.
I've lost all trust the German prosecutors and police

'There was a "calm atmosphere" overnight' - Cologne police report on New Years Eve celebrations

It's a shocking piece of journalism.
You haven't read the Guardian, then

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How many among those who have arrived are really Syrians? There is a mass black market of forged Syrian passports, and you can see stories of men from Morocco and Algeria taking the plane to Istanbul to then travel with the flow to enter Europe as Syrians.
Ultimately, there is nothing we can do about that
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Ultimately, there is nothing we can do about that
Stop. Admitting. Muslim. Men.
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The Guardian(liberal as hell) are reporting this now, so it's not just about being anti-migration as people like to claim now.
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I've lost all trust the German prosecutors and police

'There was a "calm atmosphere" overnight' - Cologne police report on New Years Eve celebrations
The response of the German enforcement services was disgusting and the Guardian produces some complete crap, but neither of those should take away from the fact that the independent are peddling a story that their own sources has rebutted.
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IKR? It's the fault of the mainstream media that people are confused/talking about Syrians so much really; they've conflated the migrant crisis (c.20% Syrian) with the Syrian refugee crisis e.g. in trying to play at the heart-strings of Europeans displaying apprehension regarding the former
I'm so confused right now. Just **** this anyway
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