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    hiya! yup i did post this thread in the general university discussion forum, but i was just curious, specifically for Oxford, is the university is generally characterised by cliques? as in the 'nerds' and the 'jocks' etc. as school often is - or do ppl generally socialise according to their courses, or where they're from, or the clubs they belong to?
    ive heard in imperial, that ppl often form very tight groups based on their courses and their lecture buddies...
    and are these social groups usually formed within the college or do ppl tend to have friends from other colleges as well? because clubs n societies are sometimes college-based right?
    i'm sure there must be quite a mix and it may not be possible to generalise, but just as a sort of superficial overview - who do ppl tend to hang out with and based on what?

    thanx!
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    I think this thread could REALLY put people off applying to Oxbridge. Univeristy is what you make it. Everyone finds their own niche. The whole purpose of university societies is to enable people to meet other students with similar interests and make make friends. Colleges are small groups and most people make friends in their halls. Plus everyone bonds over their essay crisis/revision stress/failed practicals etc on their course.

    (Original post by babyballerina)
    I think this thread could REALLY put people off applying to Oxbridge. .
    erm - so that really wasn't my intention - i didn't even mean to imply that there are mainly cliques at Oxbridge or anything - i was curious in general about cliques in university and as i've applied to oxford, wanted to know specifically bout the situation there -

    it's true that university is what u make it - i really don't disagree - i just wanted to know what ppl tend to do that's all - doesn't mean i'm automatically gonna do that...
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    (Original post by nervous)
    hiya! yup i did post this thread in the general university discussion forum, but i was just curious, specifically for Oxford, is the university is generally characterised by cliques? as in the 'nerds' and the 'jocks' etc. as school often is - or do ppl generally socialise according to their courses, or where they're from, or the clubs they belong to?
    ive heard in imperial, that ppl often form very tight groups based on their courses and their lecture buddies...
    and are these social groups usually formed within the college or do ppl tend to have friends from other colleges as well? because clubs n societies are sometimes college-based right?
    i'm sure there must be quite a mix and it may not be possible to generalise, but just as a sort of superficial overview - who do ppl tend to hang out with and based on what?

    thanx!
    Most people tend to have a group of friends from their college often some from the same course and then often another based on a particular interest,society, team, drinking establishment etc. There are some cliques and 'types' but in some ways it's not as bad at Oxford as other unis. People tend to be more open minded about each other - one of the benefits of the college system.
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    (Original post by nervous)
    hiya! yup i did post this thread in the general university discussion forum, but i was just curious, specifically for Oxford, is the university is generally characterised by cliques? as in the 'nerds' and the 'jocks' etc. as school often is - or do ppl generally socialise according to their courses, or where they're from, or the clubs they belong to?
    It's not like the States, where you have the "cool" kids and all the sorority/fraternity cliques. I imagine that Oxford will be similar to Cambridge in this, so might as well answer. Nearly everyone is really friendly, regardless of where you come from/what you're doing. You may well find that you will be good friends with the people doing your subject and/or in your college (in my case, I get on really well with all the first year medics in my college, which is great). But there's nothing to stop you being friends with other people, and nobody will reject you or whatever. It's what you make of it - there are a few groups of people who I choose not to hang out with, but I don't hate them or anything.
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    The place is very cliquey indeed - people group themselves based on interests, and in some cases social class, but not so much by course. People lead entirely different lifestyles based on the contrasting clique they're in - for example there's boaties and rugby players who do pub crawls, Tory wannabe politicians with their slate parties, the posh 'rahs' who have champagne-fuelled nights at Green, the indie/alternative kids who do Zodiac/PT, the Oriental and Asian cliques, and lots who just stick with friends from their college. For example last night there was an invite-only party (Piers Gaveston) for the 'rahs' fuelled with cocaine, an orgy tent, etc... Before being slammed for putting people off, I'm just telling it as it is.
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    (Original post by Jools)
    The place is very cliquey indeed - people group themselves based on interests, and in some cases social class, but not so much by course. People lead entirely different lifestyles based on the contrasting clique they're in - for example there's boaties and rugby players who do pub crawls, Tory wannabe politicians with their slate parties, the posh 'rahs' who have champagne-fuelled nights at Green, the indie/alternative kids who do Zodiac/PT, the Oriental and Asian cliques, and lots who just stick with friends from their college. For example last night there was an invite-only party (Piers Gaveston) for the 'rahs' fuelled with cocaine, an orgy tent, etc... Before being slammed for putting people off, I'm just telling it as it is.
    Were you in attendance?
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    Nope, was invited last minute but had other plans. Might have felt quite out of place.
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    I'm not a fan of tents either, too many parasites.
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    (Original post by Jools)
    The place is very cliquey indeed - people group themselves based on interests, and in some cases social class, but not so much by course. People lead entirely different lifestyles based on the contrasting clique they're in - for example there's boaties and rugby players who do pub crawls, Tory wannabe politicians with their slate parties, the posh 'rahs' who have champagne-fuelled nights at Green, the indie/alternative kids who do Zodiac/PT, the Oriental and Asian cliques, and lots who just stick with friends from their college. For example last night there was an invite-only party (Piers Gaveston) for the 'rahs' fuelled with cocaine, an orgy tent, etc... Before being slammed for putting people off, I'm just telling it as it is.
    Agree those cliques exist, although decreasingly so, but I'm not sure they are anywhere as near dominant as you suggest. For most people you have a bunch of mates in your own college and whilst you might also be involved in other groups it's the former who are usually the people you find yourself with at the kebab van at 2 in the morning. It may vary from college to college.
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    (Original post by scanner)
    Agree those cliques exist, although decreasingly so, but I'm not sure they are anywhere as near dominant as you suggest. For most people you have a bunch of mates in your own college and whilst you might also be involved in other groups it's the former who are usually the people you find yourself with at the kebab van at 2 in the morning. It may vary from college to college.
    Yep completely true. The majority of students here form friendship groups from their own college, and this is primarily the people they associate with. Even there there's a bit of a class war though, in 1st yr my college seemed to split between the 'rahs' and 'commoners'. It's just after breaking away from college this year I've realised how prevalent the non-collegiate cliques are.

    (Original post by Jools)
    Yep completely true. The majority of students here form friendship groups from their own college, and this is primarily the people they associate with. Even there there's a bit of a class war though, in 1st yr my college seemed to split between the 'rahs' and 'commoners'. It's just after breaking away from college this year I've realised how prevalent the non-collegiate cliques are.
    would u consider this more a characteristic of Oxbridge than other universities?
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    I can't speak for people at non-collegiate universities, but to my knowledge people often tend to just make friends with the people in their halls of residence, with the ones not in halls eager to make friends in the lecture hall. A few I know at Warwick said it's a bit crap really, that they only really know 15 people in a university of thousands.
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    (Original post by Jools)
    I can't speak for people at non-collegiate universities, but to my knowledge people often tend to just make friends with the people in their halls of residence, with the ones not in halls eager to make friends in the lecture hall. A few I know at Warwick said it's a bit crap really, that they only really know 15 people in a university of thousands.
    They see you as a commoner then?

    I presume when you say rah's and commeners, you mean private schools and comprehensives?
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    (Original post by Logarithm)
    I presume when you say rah's and commeners, you mean private schools and comprehensives?
    That seems a common assumption, but it's wrong. It's a question of attitude. Schooling isn't really an issue - you don't exactly wear a badge saying what school you went to. On the whole (in my experience) people don't ask and don't know.
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    (Original post by Logarithm)
    I presume when you say rah's and commeners, you mean private schools and comprehensives?
    Actually not at all. People labelled 'rahs' are those who are very exclusive and cliquey, and may not dream of talking to a working class kid. The ones who associate with the upper class even though they went to a bog standard comprehensive are the 'faux-rahs'. On the other hand there's plenty of wealthy people who make no issue at all of their money and naturally become friends with people from state schools etc.

    (Original post by d750)
    Schooling isn't really an issue - you don't exactly wear a badge saying what school you went to. On the whole (in my experience) people don't ask and don't know.
    Ha, someone got ripped to shreds for wearing his public school blazer to president's drinks at the union, another is notorious for his first question being "What school did you go to?" But outside a minority of cliques, yes schooling is not an issue.
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    Lol, back to the 19th century with social classes. Sounds a bit weird, I guess it's on attitude more than wealth though, we were just given a talk about how we'll all end up poor with no food at university. :confused:
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    (Original post by mik1a)
    Lol, back to the 19th century with social classes. Sounds a bit weird, I guess it's on attitude more than wealth though, we were just given a talk about how we'll all end up poor with no food at university. :confused:
    Yes, that's the idea, unless you have lots of money in the bank!
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    (Original post by Jools)
    Ha, someone got ripped to shreds for wearing his public school blazer to president's drinks at the union
    Quite right too.
 
 
 
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