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    So, I am just going to be honest. I am struggling to make sense out of the health care system here. And my GP seems useless. He is not directly unpleasant, but he is not very helpful on any issues so far medical nor mental.

    I am on my 4th year studying here in the UK, and have 2 more to go.

    I am trying to make this short, because it is a long story, but I consider myself as a fairly resourceful person who can deal with a lot, and usually I can control my thoughts. But due to my situation, I can´t really lean on my friends that much (or they don´t pick up the phone) or my parents (not very good with emotions). I just want to completely let go of every emotion I have, but if I do, I´ll flunk school and bring myself even deeper down.

    So, I have been on and off depressed for 5 years, usually shorter episodes with the worst being the past 2 years. I have been engaged to the love of my life for a year soon, but she is constantly between life and death due to an infection who shouldn´t even bother people with normal immune systems like her and I. I have been to hospitals, fought for her, with Dr´s, hospitals, lied, struggled with staying strong and not take it personally (I do) when my very, very tired girlfriend who is always in immense pain has enough and gets angry at me, or is in general frustrated. I have stayed up night after night, been very inactive and had a poor diet due to this, and lost and gained 7 kgs twice this year due to stress.

    My prev. psych teacher was my "go to" before, but he changed job. I´ve had 5 sessions with a CBT counsellor (not helpful) And my GP says there is not really anything else for me, except the *****y medications he gives me, which only gives me side-effects, because I am "too young" to get others.. Is anyone too young to really struggle?

    I must admit that I find it hard to have a melt down in front of him or anyone, or really show how I feel on the inside, hell I´ll bottle it up inside even when I am alone because I just don´t know how to deal with it. It feels as if I am being postponed until my anxiety and depression (yes I know this is what I have) is off the charts and I can´t cope anymore, and thereby ending up in the A&E? I am desperate, really, but I try to go to school, I try to socialise, but I want neither. I want to stay in bed, cry and complain for a year, stop caring and dig myself a deep depression sanctuary where I can make myself worse. But somehow, luckily, I don't.

    My private GP back home wants me to see a psychiatrist there, but it is too expensive, and I currently need my network here. My student insurance would cover up to 20 sessions with a psychologist in the UK probably, but I can´t find any private ones. And my GP won´t refer so I can see a psychiatrist either, even though I think I could use my private insurance to pay one privately. If they accept it.

    Man, I really, really feel for everyone struggling with mental health issues in this country. There is barely any help anywhere here.

    BUT, does anyone have any ideas not involving terminating my studies?

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    I know exactly what you mean!!

    I'm struggling with Mental health, not got any diagnosed condition but just struggling, and I can't get support.
    Or that was, until recently. I ended up in A&E, for 6 hours.. and the person their said that their Is completely no support services. However, them contacting my GP has then got more results from the GP than what they would do, and I'm getting sleep medicines (when the pharmacy supplier has it) which I'm hoping will get my sleep improved and therefore help everything else.

    My point is you never know how soon things can change, this time last week everything was terrible, last week so much happened and I'm trying to be hopeful that this medicine will help. I've learnt that getting help is all about hope.

    Have you thought about support groups, a kind of meet other people struggling and help each other together? I don't know how spread across the country they are but google it. Or a similar idea is a drop in and talk to volunteers. I find talking to volunteers is amazing, because unlike the so called professionals they are there because they want to be, not because it's a job, and often have personal experience and understand what you say. They are unlikely to get you any support but just meeting and talking to someone who understands can help more than I can ever possibly explain, so I defiantly recommend it if possible.
    Failing that look online for support. I've found a few websites some for specific issues others more general, I'll tell you some if your interested or look for yourself.
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    Hiya

    Have you tried getting in touch with student support at your uni? They can often be very helpful and there should be counselling services etc. I have a support worker through uni and she will chase up my GP and ring to get me appts with the mental health team if she notices I am not doing so great.

    Also, your GP sounds useless. Have you thought about swapping and seeing a different GP? You can do that. A new GP may be more helpful and do more to support you. Also google "mental health support [put your area here]" to see if there are any voluntary services/charities to support people in your area.

    You are right though - mental health services are shocking here a lot of the time. You have to really push for what you need.
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    I have found mental health services in this country absolutely minimalist and no help whatsoever. I am from the UK.

    Public MH services in most countries are non existent or not very good. They are reserved for the absolute critical cases only.

    I have been fortunate enough when I worked overseas after my BA, to have been able to afford private CBT therapists and eventually a private psychiatrist when we realised I needed meds for BP2.

    Now back in UK with increasing cost of living, all I have been offered by the CMHT is group therapy which I am unable to get to due to work and distance - it's not even in the same county! I get my meds that were prescribed overseas and they really do a lot of good, so that's a plus that I have a GP that understands BP and realised my meds worked and carried on the prescription.

    So I got a better paying job and now see a private therapist again. Though I'll be quitting that soon as saving up to do MA and my meds really do work and I don't feel I need it right now. Ironically I had to be at the best Private International Clinic in the country I was working in overseas on private health insurance, before I got properly diagnosed and meds that actually made my life much, much better.

    In the UK with the NHS, it was the same old run around with go to GP, we can't refer you to psychiatrist unless you are suicidal or self harming, here's some anti depressants, take them and come back and see me once every three months. Which of course is as good as useless, as you need the support of an ACTUAL PERSON to get perspective on your illness and devise new coping strategies etc, as well as the meds. Plus they always diagnosed me wrong. Meds alone rarely help much.... But they are underfunded and over stretched, so.....

    Private is best in my experience if you can afford it. Even if it's only once a fortnight. Due to rising numbers of people with MH issues, the average price has dropped now to about £45 a session, so twice a month not too bad.... Private psychiatrists are expensive still though...

    Also there have been a lot of 'Wellness Centres' sprung up around the country and they are free and generally pretty good, ran by nice people at least.

    Though I still prefer private one to one, as I tried wellness centre, and being amongst loads of others who are down or worse off than me, never helped me much as I was too worried and depressed about them and their lives....

    Most universities offer free counselling sessions right? On my BA I found them relatively helpful and when I do my MA I will be using them too, letting them know I am bp2 and seeing them as regularly as I can to check in and access and monitor my stability and make sure I am living the right way in order to maintain it.
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    (Original post by Nojoke)
    So, I am just going to be honest. I am struggling to make sense out of the health care system here. And my GP seems useless. He is not directly unpleasant, but he is not very helpful on any issues so far medical nor mental.

    I am on my 4th year studying here in the UK, and have 2 more to go.

    I am trying to make this short, because it is a long story, but I consider myself as a fairly resourceful person who can deal with a lot, and usually I can control my thoughts. But due to my situation, I can´t really lean on my friends that much (or they don´t pick up the phone) or my parents (not very good with emotions). I just want to completely let go of every emotion I have, but if I do, I´ll flunk school and bring myself even deeper down.

    So, I have been on and off depressed for 5 years, usually shorter episodes with the worst being the past 2 years. I have been engaged to the love of my life for a year soon, but she is constantly between life and death due to an infection who shouldn´t even bother people with normal immune systems like her and I. I have been to hospitals, fought for her, with Dr´s, hospitals, lied, struggled with staying strong and not take it personally (I do) when my very, very tired girlfriend who is always in immense pain has enough and gets angry at me, or is in general frustrated. I have stayed up night after night, been very inactive and had a poor diet due to this, and lost and gained 7 kgs twice this year due to stress.

    My prev. psych teacher was my "go to" before, but he changed job. I´ve had 5 sessions with a CBT counsellor (not helpful) And my GP says there is not really anything else for me, except the *****y medications he gives me, which only gives me side-effects, because I am "too young" to get others.. Is anyone too young to really struggle?

    I must admit that I find it hard to have a melt down in front of him or anyone, or really show how I feel on the inside, hell I´ll bottle it up inside even when I am alone because I just don´t know how to deal with it. It feels as if I am being postponed until my anxiety and depression (yes I know this is what I have) is off the charts and I can´t cope anymore, and thereby ending up in the A&E? I am desperate, really, but I try to go to school, I try to socialise, but I want neither. I want to stay in bed, cry and complain for a year, stop caring and dig myself a deep depression sanctuary where I can make myself worse. But somehow, luckily, I don't.

    My private GP back home wants me to see a psychiatrist there, but it is too expensive, and I currently need my network here. My student insurance would cover up to 20 sessions with a psychologist in the UK probably, but I can´t find any private ones. And my GP won´t refer so I can see a psychiatrist either, even though I think I could use my private insurance to pay one privately. If they accept it.

    Man, I really, really feel for everyone struggling with mental health issues in this country. There is barely any help anywhere here.

    BUT, does anyone have any ideas not involving terminating my studies?

    Thanks
    I am utterly brain-dead right now, just taken some of my painkillers and so my concentration is very poor, but just wanted to say I will be posting a little later on with something a bit more substantial than this post, and that I really really hope you hold in there
 
 
 
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