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    A Vote of No Confidence has been called against the TSR Government.

    A 3 day discussion period will be followed by a 4 day vote in the Division Lobby as per the Guidance Document. If the result of the poll is in favour of the motion of no confidence then a period of 7 days shall be allowed for other parties to form a new government (using all the usual regulations for it).If the result of the poll does not favour the motion of no confidence then usual business will resume in the House of Commons.


    Motion of No Confidence
    Motion of No Confidence in Her Majesty's Government
    Proposed by: Life_peer MP (CON)
    Seconded by: Jammy Duel MP (CON), mobbsy91 MP (CON), Nigel Farage MEP MP (UKIP), Unown Uzer MP (UKIP)

    This House has no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.

    Since the beginning of this year, the Government have managed to produce only two bills, one of which failed and the other, previously drafted for and proposed within another MHoC, managed to dramatically compromise the operation of our security services, and one disastrous and technically flawed budget.

    Prior to that, in the month of December 2015, the Government attempted yet another failed House of Lords reform, passed a fairly minor bill to ‘protect’ negligent customers from energy companies, recklessly permitted trade unions to use unsafe and obscure online voting, and gave asexuality ‘the same legal recognition and protection’ as other trendy forms of sexual behaviour while neglecting and discriminating against the other exotic permutations of sexual attributes.

    In November 2015, right when the Government were fresh after they had won the general election and formed their coalition, they only managed to create a single bill which has passed only by a hair, having been labeled ‘a travesty to democracy’ even by some of their own.

    At the same time, various members of the Government proposed a couple of PMB and arguably many needless constitutional amendments, giving the impression of a severe lack of unity further indicated by their very low engagement in debates and members who had simply disappeared. Two of their seats held by the Liberal party are now highlighted for removal and the number would have been higher had the current Speaker started the review where the previous one left off.

    In total, three and a half months since the general election, more than halfway into the current term, the Government's output of mere six bills has been surpassed by single parties with fewer members such as UKIP, Greens, or even Socialists.

    Even worse, the Government don't act on their promises to the electorate – the very promises they've been elected upon! TSR Liberal party have addressed only two out of their quite specific twelve election pledges and TSR Labour party have been even a bit less successful – about two out of fourteen!

    Moreover, the contents of the statement of intent from the Department of the Environment, Energy and Climate Change from 18 November 2015 were not only flawed but have also not been put into law to date.

    Moving on to the much postponed budget after the former Liberal leader and Chancellor had simply disappeared, this has been a term of two Chancellors. We've had an absent Chancellor (a state that was maintained for a month before finally the Government managed to replace him), and we've had an inept Chancellor (who at least finally resigned), and a financially inept Government as a whole. Sadly, this financial ineptitude has not been limited to the Chancellor, but is a common symptom within the entire Government, with arbitrary figures often used and cases where expensive pieces have had no costing at all. He, and the leadership of the Government, appear to let Government items be released without even running a sanity check on the figures used.

    Perhaps the greatest example of this is the SoI from the former Rt. Hon. SoS for Defence, an item that was withdrawn in less than twenty four hours with figures apparently pulled out of a hat to make it look like nice things are being done. It included spending almost half of the foreign aid budget, misappropriated into the Defence budget to try to hide a significant nominal funding cut, on the Afghan government, doubling their budget with a sum of money that is greater than 25% of their GDP, and to do this the government intended to cut our nuclear budget not only to zero, but to approximately minus six hundred percent.

    Further, it more than doubled the annual budget of MI5 and GCHQ, further highlighting how little research the government does, but this problem goes further. After withdrawing the SoI, the Government did not go and reconsider the figures in any real detail, in fact all they did was cram the very same SoI into the budget with all figures slashed by 90% and parts of it with no support from the former SoS for Defence; this along with a number of other arbitrary figures apparently pulled out of thin air for the budget.

    The issue goes the other way as well; it's not just arbitrary costing that needs dealing with, it is no costing at all. The former SoS for Health who has recently resigned published her own SoI, one that not only neglected to consider changes made in the budget, but failed to include any costing at all despite including projects costing several billion pounds, the only alternative being that the SoS in fact wishes to cut other services, which is perhaps even worse.

    Beyond this we've had a Chancellor often incapable of accurate costing, with there being at least two notable cases beyond the budget. The first major error was with the original Alternative Tax Act which stated revenues of £83bn, however a more in-depth look has shown this figure to, in reality, be at least double that figure with a lower bound of £165bn, and up to five times with an absolute upper bound of £415bn. This is only compounded when we look at the amendment also put forwards by the former Chancellor, once again severely underestimating the revenues from another regressive tax designed to replace it, with the figure put forwards by the Government only covering residential properties, and not extending the costing to commercial and industrial lands. The Government have also promised to spend £56.1bn on environment with no plans on where that it going to come from.

    We see in this Government poor research and financial irresponsibility. We see numbers being randomly plucked out of the air, severe underestimates from poor research, and even a lack of costing. We've seen a Chancellor who has difficulty with even some of the most basic concepts, a Chancellor who fails to accept when they are objectively wrong, a Chancellor who was simply not fit for his job.

    In short, the recently most active member of the Government appears to have been their weakest link, but he wasn't the only weak link. Only a very minor portion of the Cabinet is active in debates and even fewer have released a bill or a Statement of Intent. They lack defence, education, foreign and social policies, the Foreign Secretary's only work has been a statement calling for Britain to leave the Commonwealth, the former Defence Secretary couldn't even defend his own and the new Secretary has a history of absurdity, with motions calling for the opening of our borders to the deployment of our armed forces into Syria for the purpose of protecting some birds and an archaeological site!

    These countless failings and errors are almost unprecedented, perhaps saved only by the two subsequent disasters last term, and we believe it should change.

    Unfortunately, they are simply not up to the job.



    Notes: The number of bills doesn't include those expired or withdrawn, in other words those currently in the Division Lobby.


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    Aye, the lack of action from the government in all departments proves the government is not up to the job; this MoNC should have been called sooner.
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    Aye. We've been holding this off as much as we could, hoping to see results, but there's been little activity, half of your output withdrawn, the other half disappointingly incorrect, and your people disappear like money during a Friday night… I'm sure you aren't going to admit it, but even compared to lefty governments two years ago, you have to realise this isn't good at all. :dontknow:
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    The government certainly hasn't been performing to its maximum potential, but this was out of the blue

    Will I support it, I will make my mind up during these discussions!
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    From someone who has just recently joined the government I think this motion is way to overrated. I think the Chancellor did a great job on the budget with a great amount of detail. If the opposition didn't like the budget why didnt you post an alternative one? And the matter about bills is being addressed, at least in the Labour party, and we are working hard to deliver our manifesto pledges.
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    I'm going to casually roll my eyes :rolleyes:, and sigh at this.
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    Nay. Since I was asked to second this, I've considered it and while I don't think this government's record is excellent by any means, it's not bad enough for them to be VoNC'd. Furthermore, I worry that another government would either be hastily thrown together like the Coalition of Doom last term, or worse, more right-wing than the existing one.
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    This is the most absurd and outrageous thing I have seen on TSR. It is a right wing movement to plunge the MHoC into chaos. I am pleading everyone to say Nay.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    From someone who has just recently joined the government I think this motion is way to overrated. I think the Chancellor did a great job on the budget with a great amount of detail. If the opposition didn't like the budget why didnt you post an alternative one? And the matter about bills is being addressed, at least in the Labour party, and we are working hard to deliver our manifesto pledges.
    Four months have passed since the beginning of this term, so there are only two months left. Tell me, how many election pledges have you addressed so far?

    The former Chancellor did a shoddy job at best. Jammy Duel spent quite a lot of time explaining many of the issues and some of them are also described in this motion.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    From someone who has just recently joined the government I think this motion is way to overrated. I think the Chancellor did a great job on the budget with a great amount of detail. If the opposition didn't like the budget why didnt you post an alternative one? And the matter about bills is being addressed, at least in the Labour party, and we are working hard to deliver our manifesto pledges.
    Are you going to say anything else? All you're doing is trotting out the party line.

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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Nay. Since I was asked to second this, I've considered it and while I don't think this government's record is excellent by any means, it's not bad enough for them to be VoNC'd. Furthermore, I worry that another government would either be hastily thrown together like the Coalition of Doom last term, or worse, more right-wing than the existing one.
    By whom?
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    This is a model parliament. Emphasis on model. I'm sorry but most people have other commitments and don't take it too seriously. Most of the time, you're not going to get high-quality, well-researched legislation, and most of the time, you're not going to get a Cabinet every single member of which has the time to spend a lot of time debating. It's just not going to happen. People have lives. And besides, we all know this has only been proposed because Life_peer is butthurt that he's not Prime Minister.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    By whom?
    By you. I can dig out the PM if you want?
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    The question those on the left should ask: would the left launch an MoNC on a Con-Lib/Con-Kip coalition if we'd failed in the same magnitude.

    The answer: yes! So no reason not to vote Aye in these circumstances.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Four months have passed since the beginning of this term, so there are only two months left. Tell me, how many election pledges have you addressed so far?

    The former Chancellor did a shoddy job at best. Jammy Duel spent quite a lot of time explaining many of the issues and some of them are also described in this motion.
    The Government don't introduce a bill for a week so we all go on a rampage as the worlds ending...no. Yes, there has been a lack of bills for the last week. However there have been a number of bills submitted in the past days and over this parliament. Also, can I say, you do not have to submit bills just to fulfil your manifesto pledges, they can be delivered without submitting bills.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    By you. I can dig out the PM if you want?
    I only asked you whether you had confidence in the Government, to which you failed to even reply (which was rather impolite, if I may add). Don't lie, please.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Aye, the lack of action from the government in all departments proves the government is not up to the job; this MoNC should have been called sooner.
    And the last time your party was in government, one bill was produced (or was it two....hmmm, can't remember) and the budget amounted to half a spreadsheet of wrong figures. If there's anyone who's not suited to tell the government it's not up to the job, it's Ukip.
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    Aye.

    Haven't seen anything really useful come out of the government. It's time for a Conservative PM here, two years since the last one.

    MHoC needs a fresh face.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    The Government don't introduce a bill for a week so we all go on a rampage as the worlds ending...no. Yes, there has been a lack of bills for the last week. However there have been a number of bills submitted in the past days and over this parliament. Also, can I say, you do not have to submit bills just to fulfil your manifesto pledges, they can be delivered without submitting bills.
    A week? Only two have made it to the division lobby since the beginning of this year.

    How exactly? Those pathetic SoI riddled with errors and made-up figures?
 
 
 
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