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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    This is the best but of posting those comments, because you go and shout BS, funnily enough you expect every word to be believed when it comes from your side, even though they're contradictory, with half the time people saying they have no time for the MHoC, and the other that they are ultra active.

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    So your entire assumption, that we are too inactive and you, by contrast, are more deserving, relies solely on us believing that you have a stockpile of bills sitting in the wings.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    So your entire assumption, that we are too inactive and you, by contrast, are more deserving, relies solely on us believing that you have a stockpile of bills sitting in the wings.
    Nope, because you don't have a stockpile and don't even really have half your government. We've spent all this time with the Government being simultaneously super active with loads being imminently released, and a government that cannot find one hour in 3000, who seem in crisis unable to decide which.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Nope, because you don't have a stockpile and don't even really have half your government. We've spent all this time with the Government being simultaneously super active with loads being imminently released, and a government that cannot find one hour in 3000, who seem in crisis unable to decide which.

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    Soooo.....give me one reason that we should believe you do have a stockpile.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Soooo.....give me one reason that we should believe you do have a stockpile.
    Is it not obvious, because I said so, silly.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is it not obvious, because I said so, silly.

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    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I hope you are because otherwise you're being hypocritical:rolleyes:
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I hope you are because otherwise you're being hypocritical:rolleyes:
    Obviously I am, if I can be bothered later I will go through AtG and see just how many times each person made a statement along those lines and how many times they were actually telling the truth

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    Personally, whilst I haven't been here long, I sense that there has been a Labour rule for too long. I think that they have become complacent in their position, the MHoC needs a new face. And as Life_peer rightly points out, only two bills have made it to the division lobby.
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    (Original post by balanced)
    Personally, whilst I haven't been here long, I sense that there has been a Labour rule for too long. I think that they have become complacent in their position, the MHoC needs a new face. And as Life_peer rightly points out, only two bills have made it to the division lobby.
    Yet they have also released 12 statements, and have matched the bill output of both the conservatives and UKIP. Partisanship is no reason to call a VoNC, and is an assault on the democratic will of the people. I'd also point out that a ConKip Government (whilst it would have my support) would have less seats that the current government and as such will have even less legislation passed. Unless you join with the Greens or the Socialists of course, but that's unlikely as hell.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    Yet they have also released 12 statements, and have matched the bill output of both the conservatives and UKIP. Partisanship is no reason to call a VoNC, and is an assault on the democratic will of the people. I'd also point out that a ConKip Government (whilst it would have my support) would have less seats that the current government and as such will have even less legislation passed. Unless you join with the Greens or the Socialists of course, but that's unlikely as hell.
    No, No, No. The productivity from our side of the house would be higher; and we would be able to produce more legislation with less seats than the government can Nigel Farage MEP So Lime-man, on this occasion you are wrong, based on different productivities.
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    No, No, No. The productivity from our side of the house would be higher; and we would be able to produce more legislation with less seats than the government can Nigel Farage MEP So Lime-man, on this occasion you are wrong, based on different productivities.
    It would depend on the bills posted. Anything relatively authoritarian wouldn't pass


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    (Original post by adam9317)
    No, No, No. The productivity from our side of the house would be higher; and we would be able to produce more legislation with less seats than the government can Nigel Farage MEP So Lime-man, on this occasion you are wrong, based on different productivities.
    You have proposed the same number of bills as the government, yet the government has also released 12 statements on top of that. The government has actually been more productive that you over the course of the term, and I know I'm only new, but it doesn't take much time looking through the threads and forums to see it.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    Yet they have also released 12 statements, and have matched the bill output of both the conservatives and UKIP. Partisanship is no reason to call a VoNC, and is an assault on the democratic will of the people. I'd also point out that a ConKip Government (whilst it would have my support) would have less seats that the current government and as such will have even less legislation passed. Unless you join with the Greens or the Socialists of course, but that's unlikely as hell.
    How many statements? Regardless, there have been withdrawals and some feel like they're padding, for instance in response to the crisis last night. In the past it's been put in the crisis thread, last night independent and I can only assume to make it look like they're doing more. I believe some where justa few lines in a big output gap and I still note limited rebuttal to the content of this motion

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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    You have proposed the same number of bills as the government, yet the government has also released 12 statements on top of that. The government has actually been more productive that you over the course of the term, and I know I'm only new, but it doesn't take much time looking through the threads and forums to see it.
    Your statistics are wrong, I counted the bills to find the right-wing side has produced more bills than the government. I do not include the Statement of Intents in the count because they were rushed, withdrawn, or full of errors that the government admitted to.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    How many statements? Regardless, there have been withdrawals and some feel like they're padding, for instance in response to the crisis last night. In the past it's been put in the crisis thread, last night independent and I can only assume to make it look like they're doing more. I believe some where justa few lines in a big output gap and I still note limited rebuttal to the content of this motion

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    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...1#post62758481

    Government Bills to date: 15
    Conkip bills to date :15

    Government Statements to date: 12

    You are actually outclassed in terms of activity
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    You have proposed the same number of bills as the government, yet the government has also released 12 statements on top of that. The government has actually been more productive that you over the course of the term, and I know I'm only new, but it doesn't take much time looking through the threads and forums to see it.
    I have to agree with Nigel that your stats are wrong, plus there are great things to come from UKIP very very soon!
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Your statistics are wrong, I counted the bills to find the right-wing side has produced more bills than the government. I do not include the Statement of Intents in the count because they were rushed, withdrawn, or full of errors that the government admitted to.
    Then your figures are biased.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Your statistics are wrong, I counted the bills to find the right-wing side has produced more bills than the government. I do not include the Statement of Intents in the count because they were rushed, withdrawn, or full of errors that the government admitted to.
    Well, many weren't admitted to given that when James was demonstrably wrong he would merely assert he wasn't rather than accept it or offer a real rebuttal. This government is full of Idk in response to criticism

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    (Original post by adam9317)
    I have to agree with Nigel that your stats are wrong, plus there are great things to come from UKIP very very soon!
    My figures aren't wrong, see above.

    And by saying that, you sound very much like the government.

    I'm not saying that the government have been perfect, but they have been more active than the alternative so this MoNC should not be in place.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    My figures aren't wrong, see above.

    And by saying that, you sound very much like the government.

    I'm not saying that the government have been perfect, but they have been more active than the alternative so this MoNC should not be in place.
    I will guarantee you that UKIP have many bills in the pipeline, but we do just need to get them finalised and perfect before submitting; as there is no point in submitting a half attempt at a bill
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    I will guarantee you that UKIP have many bills in the pipeline, but we do just need to get them finalised and perfect before submitting; as there is no point in submitting a half attempt at a bill
    I also have many bills in the pipeline, I just want to make sure they all have the ability of passing the house before I release them all. I also have several motions, several amendments, 13 budgets and a Great Dane called Bob.
 
 
 
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